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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2020, 00:07 
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I usually buy the I newspaper, and more often than not it won’t scan for me, though staff seem to manage OK!


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2020, 15:00 
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I wouldn't mind the self-service tills if they came as an extra resource in addition to the existing staff tills but they never do, and then the shop also uses them as an excuse to understaff the remaining tills.

They are only there to save money. To the shopper, they have no advantage over a staffed till (research shows that they are slower than staffed tills, for instance and increase queuing times) and many inconveniences.

What really, really annoys me is shops claiming that self-service tills are somehow more convenient and that shoppers like them. (How do they know shoppers like them? Apparently because shoppers use them so that means they like them...That shoppers aren't being offered a proper alternative so are forced to use them is ignored). I do note that the shops I have come across that tried to offered self-service only have either closed or gone back to having at least one staffed till.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2020, 22:56 
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Alison H wrote:
I suspect we're going to find a lot of things changing permanently to a computerised system. I was told by a checkout lady in Tesco earlier this week that some of the proper checkouts are being removed and being replaced by even more self service checkouts, which I hate. They're OK if you've only got a few things, but not when you're trying to put a full weekly shop into the "bagging area" without anything falling off. And that endless "Please wait for assistance" as the machine strops, and you have to wait for the unlucky staff member assigned to supervising the self service area to finish helping half a dozen other annoyed people who've just had the same message!



Interesting time for the supermarkets. Covid has seen so many people moving to home delivery (and having taken the plunge will be happy to stay that way even after it's over) that I suppose this is going to impact the way the supermarkets use their space. Hard to see a link between that and increasing self-service tills, but I bet there is one. And, yes, I hate them too.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 04 Dec 2020, 23:06 
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I don't mind them when shopping, provided I don't have too much stuff. But operating them is horrible.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2020, 15:03 
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If the supermarkets are really suffering as a result of a rise of online grocery shopping from 7% to 14%, you would have thought that they would have been trying to make bricks-and-mortar shopping as attractive as possible, offering an experience that you can't get online. Something like real people serving you, or fresh food counters, for instance.

Instead they seem to be hurtling in the opposite direction.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2020, 15:28 
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I also hate the self-service tills for giving the stores the excuse to employ fewer staff, and this week I came across something which I don't exactly blame on their use, but it certainly makes this sort of trick easier to get away with. We buy our food online and have it delivered, both having underlying health conditions, and the 'pickers' clearly don't have time to check each item - our box of (quote) six large free-range eggs was found to contain six from the smallest and cheapest range. In other words somebody had swapped them over, thereby saving themselves about seventy pence, and leaving us with eggs that we object to on ethical grounds. We're not out of pocket, at least, as the supermarket refunded what we'd spent, but it leaves a bit of a nasty taste in the mouth, if you'll excuse the pun.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2020, 18:09 
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The pickers are timed and get a disciplinary if they aren't quick enough. It's another not very good job.


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PostPosted: 05 Dec 2020, 19:58 
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Like the engineers who rush out of your house without checking things properly, because they're penalised if they don't get through a zillion jobs in a day. Who dreams up these systems?!

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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 06 Dec 2020, 12:41 
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People with an eye to the profits, I suspect, whether accountants or management. Short-sighted, of course, but in the current climate, I suppose I shouldn't blame them.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 06 Dec 2020, 14:29 
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Certainly not anyone who will ever have to do the job in question.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 07 Dec 2020, 21:40 
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Who replies to an email saying "I'm going on leave, J is filling in for me, please send her your lists, here is her address" with "Here's my list, what's J's address?"
I do not get it!


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2020, 14:04 
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After over 9 months of the covid pandemic, why do so many people STILL not know how "big" 2 metres is - even when there are markings on the ground to help them?

I moved twice yesterday to maintain social distance only to have the person move up directly behind me each time.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2020, 14:59 
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I went to get the paper this morning (we take it in turns to go) and there was an old boy and his son (or possibly not, but that sort of age difference). So one prob 5 or 10 years older than me, and evidently a bit shaky; the other 15-20 years younger than me and 'taking command' as only a white middle-aged man can do. So they both ignored the hand gel station just inside the Co-op door, but then stood within a yard of it discussing what needed to be got, and who would go in which direction to get various things. I waited in the doorway until they'd moved a bit further, and then did my hands, and waited again while they stood by the baskets until they had moved in opposite directions (no thought for the arrows on the floor indicating one way round the shop) so that I could pick up my basket (they had no milk yesterday, so I needed to get it today). So I went up the first aisle and got my milk, nipped into the top of the second and got bread, then went down the third to pick up the paper. Within a yard of the end of the third was this same pair of blokes, discussing whether they had got everything they needed; then that only one of them needed to queue up - the younger one, so the older one went through his pockets for the £10 note he knew he had somewhere, handed it over, and just stood, while the younger one stood at the back of the queueing area, although there were 2 marks on the floor closer to the tills. The older one eventually backed away a bit, and when the younger one was called to a till I marched past the older one holding my breath, and went to the correct floor marking. By this time a second till was open, but the younger one was standing in front of the section where I was being invited to put my basket, and had to be asked to stand aside by the person operating the till I was coming to ... by the time he had faffed around with the tenner, and getting change, my 3 items had been scanned and paid for with contactless, and as I turned to walk out, he nearly collided with me, as he had begun to leave as well - I was (or should have been) in his sightline but he not in mine. Politeness should have dictated that he let me go first, but no; and I stood back, and then had to wait again while he and his presumed dad stood in the way of the exit transferring the £2-and-odds change, and then ambled out towards their car. I know some people can't move very fast, or indeed think very fast, but it would be helpful if they thought at all, and if they had a bit of forethought, and consideration, and KEPT THEIR DISTANCE! (or at least got out of the way...)
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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2020, 22:29 
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Thanks to both of you for your efforts.

I started working on a Covid high dependency ward today - the level below intensive care. Many of the patients are shockingly sick and some of them are dying. So thanks to all of you for your efforts to control the spread of the virus - and get me and my colleagues back to our normal lives


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2020, 10:31 
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abbeybufo wrote:
I know some people can't move very fast, or indeed think very fast, but it would be helpful if they thought at all, and if they had a bit of forethought, and consideration, and KEPT THEIR DISTANCE! (or at least got out of the way...)
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Rant indeed. Given they had a car in which to wait, surely only one of them actually needed to go into the shop in the first place... Our supermarkets are still requesting one family member only, although not enforcing it, or maximum occupancy levels, very obviously.

Many people seem to have forgotten social distancing or what that actually means after this long of restrictions. We find ourselves stepping into the road all the time to avoid oncoming pedestrians walking two or three abreast. Is it really that hard to just keep apart and be considerate of the personal space of others?

Exile: best wishes.


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2020, 14:22 
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Thank you Exile for your contribution to fighting this terrible virus.

Those people who won’t keep their distance drive me mad. Our local bakery is long and narrow - distances are marked out along the floor and about six people can be inside at the time. So far so good. However, it amazes me how many people can spend five minutes in the queue alongside the display of delicious cakes and then get to the counter and say, “oh shall I have the chocolate or coffee or something with fruit, oh let me see”. Then they return down the corridor looking at the cakes before deciding and coming in close contact with those queueing. For goodness sake, can’t they just make up their mind whilst waiting and get on with it! Also, of course, adds to the wait of those queueing.

Rant over!


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PostPosted: 30 Dec 2020, 17:37 
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I've just spent ages in a takeaway queue behind someone who, whilst understandably disappointed that they'd run out of his first choice, seemed to think it was OK to spend all day deciding what to have instead, and even asking when more would be ready, regardless of the fact that a load of people were waiting! Not to mention people who ring home from a supermarket aisle to ask what other family members want for their tea.

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PostPosted: 04 Jan 2021, 14:57 
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Alison H wrote:
Not to mention people who ring home from a supermarket aisle to ask what other family members want for their tea.


I am the person who rings home from the aisle to ask my husband to photograph the shopping list and whatsapp it to my phone! :banghead: I am very good at making a list (in aisle order as well so I don't wander off course), not so good at remembering to take it off the fridge and bring it with me.


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PostPosted: 04 Jan 2021, 19:15 
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AilidhNoor wrote:
Alison H wrote:
Not to mention people who ring home from a supermarket aisle to ask what other family members want for their tea.


I am the person who rings home from the aisle to ask my husband to photograph the shopping list and whatsapp it to my phone! :banghead: I am very good at making a list (in aisle order as well so I don't wander off course), not so good at remembering to take it off the fridge and bring it with me.

I did that last week. Nice to know that other people are as organised as me with writing the list in aisle order. I was thinking I might be going OTT;


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 Post subject: Re: New Year whinges - please whinge away in here!
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2021, 02:58 
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exile wrote:
Thanks to both of you for your efforts.

I started working on a Covid high dependency ward today - the level below intensive care. Many of the patients are shockingly sick and some of them are dying. So thanks to all of you for your efforts to control the spread of the virus - and get me and my colleagues back to our normal lives


Thank you Exile for being in a difficult situation and also to all those trying to distance. You doing that might later on avoid an infection that kills another person, or risks a health care worker being off, it’s that simple, and it”s sad to see how selfish so many people are about having to deal with what really are mostly minor inconveniences. (I haven’t read whole of recent thread so please know I’m not talking to anyone here if there have been any messages whinging, it’s still reasonable to whinge!)

It’s just frustrating in real life to see how many people have forgotten or misunderstood why this needs to be done. And far too many including people who should know better keep spouting old information or theories someone looking for clicks on youtube has shared.

Keep safe everyone, and do remember if you can work from home, however hard it might be, be grateful you can. For all those who can’t these are especially scary times. Choosing between risking family members or own health vs paying the mortgage or incurring ever spiralling debt is a daily decision for many at the moment.

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