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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2019, 00:55 
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I had to read My Sister's Keeper (or similar title) by Jodie Picoult for a book club years ago. I hated the book. The ending was so unfair. A girl has cancer and her parents decide to have another child who can donate stem cells or something to the first child. It makes the second girl ill and places restrictions on her life. She decides not to do it anymore and there is a court case with her father agreeing with her. It ends up the first girl gets cured but the second is killed in a car crash or something - ghastly. A film was made but the ending was changed so the first girl died.

I also started a book recently for the book challenge in another forum. However, an animal was killed off unnecessarily by the author. There was absolutely no point, apart from adding general misery. I am dotty about animals and actually ripped the book up.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2019, 08:10 
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Goodness, Audrey - what was the title etc of the second book? It sounds like one I'd probably prefer to avoid! At this stage of my life I'm less inclined than ever to "dwell on guilt and misery" to borrow Jane Austen's phrase. I doubt I shall ever get to the end of Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast trilogy, brilliant though it undoubtedly is, because of its sheer weight of misery.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2019, 08:25 
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Audrey25 wrote:

I also started a book recently for the book challenge in another forum. However, an animal was killed off unnecessarily by the author. There was absolutely no point, apart from adding general misery. I am dotty about animals and actually ripped the book up.


I have just about got to the point where if I start a crime novel and the detective has a beloved cat/dog/horse/other pet, I stop reading. Too often the beloved animal is tortured or killed to try and scare the detective into stopping the investigation - it never works of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
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Noreen wrote:
I doubt I shall ever get to the end of Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast trilogy, brilliant though it undoubtedly is, because of its sheer weight of misery.


Goodness, Noreen, I admire your persistence. :shock: This was recommended to me soon after I finished uni - for a reason I now fail to recall. Perhaps because I was, and am, known to devour books! However, much as I'm prepared to try almost any book, within reason, I just couldn't get on with the first volume, never mind the other two - and never understood what my friend saw in it. To me it was pure misery, which probably reflects badly on me, but I'm not prepared to keep going with a book I'm not enjoying.

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Thanks for the compliment, Mary, but I'm afraid it's not really deserved - it's a long time since I last tried! In my case it was recommended by my friend Robert who's also a cousin of sorts (so we're quite close); SLOC is an enthusiast, too...


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I've always resisted trying Peake - I don't think it will be me at all. I can't get on with Thomas Hardy's novels - far too depressing, though I love his poetry. And I'm not a great fan of Dickens either, though I'll happily read Trollope and George Eliot - and Austen of course.

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I've always resisted trying Peake - I don't think it will be me at all. I can't get on with Thomas Hardy's novels - far too depressing, though I love his poetry. And I'm not a great fan of Dickens either, though I'll happily read Trollope and George Eliot - and Austen of course.

I could have written all of the above abbey! I am not keen on Emily Bronte either....

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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2019, 17:02 
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I should have included the Brontes in my dislikes too! I did like Mary Webb, though...

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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2019, 18:25 
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cestina wrote:
abbeybufo wrote:
I've always resisted trying Peake - I don't think it will be me at all. I can't get on with Thomas Hardy's novels - far too depressing, though I love his poetry. And I'm not a great fan of Dickens either, though I'll happily read Trollope and George Eliot - and Austen of course.

I could have written all of the above abbey! I am not keen on Emily Bronte either....


Me too! I also enjoy Mrs Gaskell.

I've only read one book by Charles Lever, but I understand he was a contemporary of Dickens and rivalled him in popularity at the time. Somehow, his work fell out of favour as the years have gone by, and yet I found him far more readable than Dickens.


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I love Jane Eyre but find Wuthering Heights very overrated. Cathy jnr is OK, but Catherine snr needed a good slap, and Heathcliff needed worse!

I can't bear Dickens. Hard Times makes me annoyed just thinking about it. We did David Copperfield at school, and the teacher joked at the end of the term that at least she knew no copies of it would've gone missing, because people couldn't give them back quickly enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2019, 19:21 
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I must be very low-brow when it comes to the so-called 'classics':roll: Give me The Scarlet Pimpernel over A Tale of Two Cities any time (though the latter is among the very few Dickens titles I enjoy, David Copperfield, Oliver Twist and parts of The Pickwick Papers being the others). I'll take Angela Thirkell over Trollope, though both are set in 'Barsetshire' and much prefer Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights to almost anything by Jane Austen (ducks for cover!!).

Edited to italicise book titles, which I should have done before I posted in the first place!


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2019, 22:02 
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Got into trouble at school by refusing to read Henry Esmond and have to say cannot enjoy any Thackeray, including Vanity Fayre...couldn’t even watch it on television. Just seemed to take forever to say anything or get anywhere and could not feel anything for the characters.
I’m afraid now, if a book doesn’t grab me in chapter one, I give up on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2019, 15:27 
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Isn't it a good thing that we are all different. If I could only keep one author it would be Dickens, I do a totally reread every few years, and Bleak House and Pickwick more often. But I don't think however much one dislikes him, he really fits the 'Bad Book' remit - not while Harrison Ainsworth is still available!
Hardy is an interesting one - I love The Mayor of Casterbridge, and Return of the Native, but Jude is an appalling load of drivel.
Where does everyone else stand on Philip Pullman? I devoured the main trilogy, but I'm still not sure if it was in the same way I devoured the Da Vinci Code - a bit like Edmund and the Turkish Delight....


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2019, 15:38 
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I liked Philip Pullman's Sally Lockhart books. Nort hern Lights wan't keen, even less so on next two, struggled to finish The amber spyglaas.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2019, 15:15 
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Noreen wrote:
Goodness, Audrey - what was the title etc of the second book? It sounds like one I'd probably prefer to avoid! At this stage of my life I'm less inclined than ever to "dwell on guilt and misery" to borrow Jane Austen's phrase. I doubt I shall ever get to the end of Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast trilogy, brilliant though it undoubtedly is, because of its sheer weight of misery.


Noreen, sorry for taking such an age to answer this, it was New Patches for Old by Christobel Mattingley.

I know stuff like that happens in real life but didn't think it was necessary in the book.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
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Thanks, Audrey - my question was totally non-urgent. I was just curious about what book it could be, and, as it turns out, I've simply never heard of it...


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 21 Jul 2019, 23:46 
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Noreen wrote:
Thanks, Audrey - my question was totally non-urgent. I was just curious about what book it could be, and, as it turns out, I've simply never heard of it...


I hadn't either but people on another forum mentioned it as being a good book to read for a book challenge I was doing on another forum. If I had known about the dog though...


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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 03 Aug 2019, 10:56 
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A more recent pick but 700+ pages of relentless misery, my vote goes to the critically acclaimed, award winning novel A Little Life by Hanya Yanagihara (2015). It just goes on and on and (even) on with the misery.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad Book Club
PostPosted: 14 Aug 2019, 11:25 
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I've never been able to get into either Jane Austen or Dickens - people who know I'm an avid reader assume I've read ALL of them and I have to disappoint them :cry: I got Emma as a present from the department store Santa when I was about 10, and I started it more times than I can remember until I finally got rid of it in my 40s! I'm also not a fan of Thomas Hardy - we had to read one of his in English Lit at school and I almost fell asleep...

I gave up on The Time Traveller's Wife because I was getting confused with all the changes, although I've happily read other similar books and not had a problem.

And on the subject of present tense, I would generally say I didn't like it, but I was halfway through the second Ruth Galloway book by Elly Griffiths before I realised they were in the present tense, because I was so gripped by them! She doesn't do it with her other series though.

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Is anyone else on this board a fan of Iain Banks and his alter ego Iain M Banks?

One of his incarnations writes novels, some very dark, almost menacing. As Iain M Banks he wrote Science fiction novels, all set in very different societies.

He hasn't written at all lately, because alas and alack, he died of pancreatic cancer in 2013. I sometimes wonder what his work would have developed into if he had lived.

One of his most famous books was televised as a serial. 'The Crow Road' was made into a serial.

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