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(Message started by: Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 1:33am)

Title: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 1:33am
Archived for length!
part one (http://members.lycos.co.uk/thecbb/prim.html)
part two (http://members.lycos.co.uk/thecbb/prim2.html)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Nicolette on Jan 13th, 2004, 1:35am
It might just be might computer but the link for part2 doesn't seem to work. Part one does though.
Now, all we need is some more story... ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 1:42am
That would be because I hadn't uploaded the file yet! ;)
It should work now!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Nicolette on Jan 13th, 2004, 1:59am
sorry vikki, was being a little hasty wasn't I!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 2:06am
I'll let you off this time honey!! ;) :-*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:10am
Vikki, your generosity is astounding!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:21am
I know!!
Aren't I nice? ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:24am
Yes, dear, of course you are. Now why do I suddenly feel rather queasy?

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:25am
Maybe you're going to be 'busy'? ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:27am
*screams very, very, very loudly*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:31am
Thank you KB, your reaction exceeded my humble expectations!!! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:34am
You're very welcome. Do you want the 'result of being busy' as well as the result of the suggestion? ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:37am
No, no, you keep that dear! I know how much you'll enjoy it!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:39am
Are you sure? I'm quite willing to hand it over!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:40am
No, no, that's quite alright!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:42am
Okay, no story for you then!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:43am
We weren't talking about a story!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:52am
I was. That was the result of me being 'busy' lately. :D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:55am
Nope! Sorry!
that would be the result of you being busy, the result o you being 'busy' is totally different!! Just ask EBD!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:56am
Hey, I think I know the result of my own business better than you do! >:(

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 3:58am
Not in this case my dear!! ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:01am
Can I help it if you're deluding yourself as to your own know-allness? You suggested it first, when all the time my queasiness was due to your rather nauseating comments! Hmph!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:03am
What nauseating comments?
I didn't make any nauseating comments!!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:05am
Ooh, you naughty fibber! You did so too!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:08am
When?
I don't remember any such thing!! ???

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:11am
*sigh* again. And I quote:


Quote:
Aren't I nice?


Whether it's true or not is beside the point!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:15am
*runs off sobbing because KB said I wasn't nice* :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:19am
Oh, I did not!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:21am
*sniffle*
Did so!! :'(

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:24am
Gee, we're going to be unpopular when everyone else gets on, aren't we?

Anyway, I didn't. I said that the comment was nauseating, but I NEVER said you weren't nice. Not once. Never.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:30am
Well, maybe I misunderstood!! :-/

I think there might be a few comments about yibbling, although we have confined it to three or four threads this time...... ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 13th, 2004, 8:19am
I come on here expecting to see more story and all it is is Vikki and KB yibbling again!  ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Lesley on Jan 13th, 2004, 8:35am
Rachel!!!!! This is supposed to be your thread - please reclaim it from the Head Girl and Second Prefect by posting some of the story!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Pat on Jan 13th, 2004, 11:20am
*Wondering if any of the rest of us will be able to get a word in edgways when those two finally meet!!  ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 13th, 2004, 11:36am
Yibble, yibble, yibble, what a waste of server space that could be taken up by stories instead.

I think your punnishment should be to write a nice long story each, and to post it in regular installments, none of your usual tricks Vikki.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 13th, 2004, 4:18pm
I liek the idea Carolyn!  ;D

Please may we have more story Rachel!  :)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by catherine on Jan 13th, 2004, 8:30pm
*thinks perhaps we should create a yibble section especially for KB and Vikki*

Has New Family died a death, Vikki?

Please post some more soon, Rachel!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Sugarplum on Jan 13th, 2004, 8:41pm
OK ...... I come online ...... I see more pages in drabble... I think story!! I really need to stop doing that!!
I think Vikki and KB could yibble their way around the world and back!! lol Heaven help us at the Gathering lol

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Pat on Jan 13th, 2004, 9:08pm
Trouble is they spread out over them all!  I love the scrapping though! ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 10:42pm
*lol* We promise to let other people speak in March - just not very much!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Lisa_T on Jan 13th, 2004, 11:05pm
H'mm. I think I'll bring several loudspeakers with me. We might need them!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 11:14pm
*pictures Rachael's face when you set them up*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 13th, 2004, 11:26pm
Hi guys - I have a slight problem. No I don't. I have a fekkin hoooooooooooj problem that is seriously narking me off!

Word has decided it isn't happy, and isn't let me in to any of my folders inside. Therefore, I can't access bits of story I wrote earlier, can't write any more in Word, can't copy anything from Word to here and in short, can't be a drabbler!

My brother says he will talk me through a fix, but not until tomorrow  :(

Therefore, you don't get any more story til it's all sorted out. Sorry bout that, and hope you will bear with me on this one! I really want to carry on with this drabble, specially as I know what's going to happen  :)  

And obviously, this all applies to Holocaust too.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Kathy_S on Jan 13th, 2004, 11:30pm
Sends effigy of Bill Gates, and asks Lesley to have Hilda deal with him if that doesn't work.

(Spends personal funds on "unsupported software" in her efforts to avoid Word as much as possible.)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 13th, 2004, 11:41pm
*sigh* Well, I suppose there's nothing to be done! *directs Rachel to huggles box*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 14th, 2004, 2:08am
*huggles Rachel tightly and heaps curses on Microsoft!!*
With regard to live yibbling in March, knowing me, I will either go all tongue tied and silly, or chatter on non stop out of sheer nervousness!!
With regard to New Family, it is on sabbatical!!!
(am hoping to get some written on Friday while stuck in a car all day with no computer access, but if I do, patience will be neccessary whilst I type it up!)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 14th, 2004, 2:29am

on 01/14/04 at 02:08:57, Vikki wrote:
With regard to live yibbling in March, knowing me, I will either go all tongue tied and silly, or chatter on non stop out of sheer nervousness!!


*promises Vikki I won't let her go tongue-tied* ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 14th, 2004, 2:32am
Thanks KB!! (I think!!!) ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 14th, 2004, 2:42am
You're very welcome, dear. ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 14th, 2004, 6:19pm
Rachel any luck with Word today  ???

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 14th, 2004, 10:52pm
*doesn't believe Word would be that obliging*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Nicolette on Jan 14th, 2004, 11:55pm
This is awful, both Rachel and Esmeralda unable to post  :( . See, this is what happens when we rely on modern technology !

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:02am
*directs Nicci to the 'what if: what would you do if there was no CBB?' for the reply to her suggestion*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by PatMac on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:05am
Nicolette's got a point.  Perhaps we should start training pigeons.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:05am

on 01/14/04 at 23:55:45, Nicolette wrote:
This is awful, both Rachel and Esmeralda unable to post  :( . See, this is what happens when we rely on modern technology !



I have found a way round the Word prob (thanks Jay ;) ) but as I had to work today, and I lost so much typing time yesterday, I wont be adding to this until tomorrow now at the soonest.  

Just be grateful my internet connection decided to behave after spending the whole morning thinking ot would be fun to kick me off the net repeatedly! I was nearly beating the computer in frustration thinking you would all decide I had run away and wasn't going to finish this!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:08am
We wouldn't think that, Rachel! We'd just think you were teasing us!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:25am
*shocked*
KB!!! As if Rachel would EVER tease us!!! ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:34am
*is pleased that Vikki is so trusting*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:38am
*is amazed by KB's failure to recognise sarcasm.....*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:41am
But Vikki, you'd never be sarcastic!!! ::)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 12:54am
KB, honey, unlike you, I can recognise sarcasm!! ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 15th, 2004, 1:01am
*lol* Oh, really, can you...?

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 15th, 2004, 5:33pm
Please may we have more story  :)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 6:48pm
*thinks Chloe might have  a point!!* ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 15th, 2004, 7:08pm
Well, I might be generous and stay up late tonight to write some more story - but I'm going out in about five minutes time and wont be back until after ten!

However, my kiddies have an inset day tomorrow, which means no nasty alarm clocks going off in the morning, which means I can stay up a little later than normal!

I also got my broadband connection up and running today, and it's wonderful! No longer do I have to click on a link, go make a cup of tea, take a bath and come back and see if it's finished loading the next page! Not that this is relevant to drabble writing, but I thought you might be interested   ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 7:20pm
Well, if it's really been takingyou that long to access each page, your recent rate of yibble has been pretty impressive!!! :o

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by LauraT on Jan 15th, 2004, 7:25pm
Indeed! I'm assuming here that Vikki and KB have 400MB broadband?!  :P

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 7:30pm
Nope!! No broadband! Just a normal modem! And I don't think KB has it either!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by LauraT on Jan 15th, 2004, 7:34pm

on 01/15/04 at 19:30:16, Vikki wrote:
Nope!! No broadband! Just a normal modem! And I don't think KB has it either!!


Am Very, Very Shocked! How on earth do you manage!! I only have 280 posts and broadband! More, how on earth do you have the patience?!  ???

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 7:41pm
Well, I generally have at least two, and sometimes three or four windows on the go at once, and I know KB does the same!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 15th, 2004, 8:30pm
I haven't found that broadband makes that much difference to the speed of this site. We got it Nov/Dec sometime and it only speeded CBB up a little. It is a great help with other stuff though, and frees up the phone line.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:09pm
I have a horrible feeling the continuity of this story is screwed! However, as I am writing it in bits every night, and haven't been able to write any for a couple of days, you'll have to ignore anything that fails to agree with earlier postings!

******************************************************************

Now that Jem wanted to speak, he was unable to find the right words to start telling his story. He sat twisting his fingers until Madge took pity on him and shoved a cup of tea towards him. Gratefully, he picked up the cup and sipped the tea, feeling himself calm down as he did so. The very act of sitting with his wife drinking tea over the breakfast table reduced him to something more like his normal condition and eventually he began talking in a low voice that Madge could only just hear.

     "Primula and Daisy have different fathers." This seemed to be as much as Jem was going to say.
     "I know that already Jem, Daisy told me herself yesterday," Madge said.
     "Yes, but that's as much as I told them yesterday. I thought Primula could cope, and I felt she had to know this sooner rather than later, before people began to talk. And people always talk, especially in backwaters like this one. I thought it would help both girls if I told them the truth, rather than them hearing half truths or out and out lies spreading round the village."
     "Couldn't you have told me Jem? Couldn't I have told the girls? Why did you not trust me when you trusted my sister?"

Jem looked at Madge, a clear steady look for the first time in two days. "Because Joey was the one who told me," he said simply. "And at first, I didn't believe her - I thought it was a sensational story and I wondered why she was telling lies about my sister. I loved Margot, I really did. But after all these revelations, I don't think I can trust myself to remember her without hating her for the mess she has left behind."
     "Jem, you're jumping around - tell the story, from the beginning, straight through."

     "Margot moved out to Australia with Stephen Venable as soon as they were married. You know I had no contact with her the whole time after that until she popped up again in Austria. Well, with everyone telling me how much young Primula looked like me, I saw the resemblance myself. But really, when you get down to it, what is that resemblance? Prim and I both have fair hair, sure, but that's it Madge. If you look closely at her features, her build, her character, she's nothing like me - nor my sister! But both her and Daisy needed us so much when Margot brought them to me that I was thrilled to have a niece who everyone told me could have been my own child. She was, and still is, a pretty little girl, too frail, but a beautiful child. Joey was the first to spot this so called resemblance, and as she always pointed it out to people, well, you could hardly blame them if they agreed! But I did ask Margot about it before she died, I asked her outright if Primula took after Stephen at all, which she said Prim didn't. Anyway, when she died, I had Joey demanding that I let her have Daisy and Prim to live with her. I didn't tell you as we were just getting over the upset of fleeing Austria, but you have to admit, it sounds a bit bizarre - a newlywed couple asking for a teenager and a second child to move in with them immediately! So I thought I would ask Jack about it." Jem stopped and poured more tea from the pot, and sat nursing it a while longer.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:10pm
"What happened then Jem?" asked Madge softly, knowing that what she was hearing was the truth. She had been lied to, for a long time and by the people she had trusted most by the sounds of things, but this was the truth staring her in the face.
     "Madge, Jack more or less insisted that I let the girls go to him and Joey. He wouldn't tell me why it was so important, but when I pushed him, he said that if you were going to be really awkward about it, they would settle for just Primula. How could I separate those girls after everything they had just been through? It made no sense at all to me Madge, and after a long time, I made Jack agree to let the girls live with us still, but to spend as much time as they would with Joey and Jack."
     
Madge's confusion was clear on her face. This whole tale, rather than clarfiying issues seemed to be muddling them still further. Madge was no closer to working out why her sister was involved than she had been before Jem's explanations. Jem, guessing at much of this from Madge;s body language decided the time had come to be blunt.
     "Madge, not only do Daisy and Primula have different fathers, they have different mothers too."

Madge, who had just lifted the tea pot to pour herself more tea dropped the pot in shock. It crashed to the floor, shattering and spilling tea all over the parquet. In despair Madge looked down and said the first thing that came into her head.
     "Two pots in two days. I do hope we don't keep this average up."

Jem kept to his seat, not confident enough of his position in Madge's feelings to risk upsetting her by trying to embrace her. Madge looked back at her husband, shock and disbelief etched in her face. "Jem, are you certain of this? It's not an accusation to make lightly, especially against someone who can no longer defend herself. Are you absolutely positive?"

     "Beyond a doubt Madge. It's all in a letter,written and signed by Margot long before her death. In fact, it must have been written just after Primula was born.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Pat on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:13pm
Rachel!!  You MAT NOT stop there!!  (Notice I don't say can't, since you obviously have!!)  Get back here and post some more!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:15pm
** Whiny voice **

Do I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaave to??

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:15pm
Flamin Green Aliens!!!

Wasn't expecting that one!!!

Glad I stayed up a little longer, I think...

Biting nails and waiting...

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:17pm

on 01/15/04 at 23:15:40, Carolyn P wrote:
Flamin Green Aliens!!!

Wasn't expecting that one!!!

Glad I stayed up a little longer, I think...

Biting nails and waiting...



I know! I mean, how many tea pots do these people OWN for goodness sake!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Pat on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:18pm
I actually posted between Rachel's 2 posts, but it does just as well where it is!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:22pm
Rachel!!!! You are NOT to leave it there over night!! None of us will sleep for worrying over it!!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by PatMac on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:22pm
I was just going to go to bed.  I'm glad I didn't.

*Now I'm trying to think of all the men and women in the really early books who could possibly have been the parents*

I know it's a little early for more but as soon as possible please, Rachel.  There are lots of people waiting, not just me and I hate seeing them suffer. :-/

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:26pm

on 01/15/04 at 23:22:21, PatMac wrote:
There are lots of people waiting, not just me and I hate seeing them suffer. :-/



But the question you have to ask yourself is - do I??    ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 15th, 2004, 11:34pm
"Rachel!!!"
*said in a scary tone of voice*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:05am

on 01/15/04 at 23:34:51, Vikki wrote:
"Rachel!!!"
*said in a scary tone of voice*



** Pats Vikki on the head **

You're so cute when you try to be scary!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:08am
Rachel, believe me, I can be incredibly scary when I put my mind to it!!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Lesley on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:09am
Really, really looking forward to more of this whenever Rachel has the time. ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:14am
As the kiddies have a day off school tomorrow (bless! they've been back two weeks, they need the break  ::) ) I will be having a long lie in! After that I have to clean the house, then the car needs de-junking again, and after that I might get a chance to write some more story!


Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:18am
But I won't be around tomorrow!! *pouts*
That means I have to wait ages!!! :'(

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:28am
Oh well  ;D

Nighty night everyone   :D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 16th, 2004, 12:31am
*chucks a pillow at Rachel for being so MEAN !!!!* :'(

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Susan on Jan 16th, 2004, 2:16am
Just exactly what one would expect from Rachel.  So Sue says thank for what you have posted and goes off to find another drabble with more story to it.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 16th, 2004, 3:02am
*decides not to bother baiting Rachel* I'm glad Jem isn't certain of his position yet! I love Madge's comment about the teapot!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Susan on Jan 16th, 2004, 2:33pm
Rachel - you've had over 12 hours.  Hope you have lots written that you haven't got posted yet!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 16th, 2004, 2:40pm

on 01/16/04 at 14:33:04, Susan wrote:
Rachel - you've had over 12 hours.  Hope you have lots written that you haven't got posted yet!


Errrrrrrr, no actually. I was too busy wiping out Canada!

I will write you some more this evening though - after me and the bratfinks have watched "Agent Cody Banks"

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Alex on Jan 16th, 2004, 2:43pm
Sounds like fun!
Love the teapot comment.
Love the way everyone is becoming fixated on the teapot comment.
So Primula has fair hair and the only man I can think of is...duh duh duh...Jack Maynard! Surely that's not it!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Abi on Jan 16th, 2004, 3:13pm
Oooooooh, lots more juicy drabble...... maybe there is something to be said for being away for a day or two  ;D

More, please Rachel, if you can hear me. yoooo-hooooooooo!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 16th, 2004, 3:42pm
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PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,
more, more, more, more,
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,
more, more, more, more,
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,
more, more, more, more,
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,
more, more, more, more,

If you may chant on my thread, I may chant on yours. ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 16th, 2004, 6:18pm
I can't wait for more of this Rachel!

*seconds Craolyn's request*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Nicolette on Jan 16th, 2004, 11:43pm
Rachel!
Thanks for the last posts but you simply can't leave it there!

Poor Prim, and she thought it was bad enough.  :(

Also a big fan of Madge's teapot comment. That's a classic  ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 16th, 2004, 11:48pm
As I said yesterday, there is something a bit squiffy about the continuity!
***********************************************************************

Jem pulled the letter from his breast pocket and passed it across the table to Madge. She took it with shaking fingers and just held it without attempting to read it.
     "Please Madge, read it for yourself." Jem said, tired and drained and not wanting to have to explain further.
     "Are you sure you want me to?" Madge asked. She knew that by reading this letter, there would be no going back for Margot Venable's reputation. By reading this letter, Margot would no longer be just Jem's sister who had tragically died. Instead she would become Jem's sister who had lied to Madge. Madge would read this letter only if Jem was completely certain he wanted Madge to think of his sister in this way.
     "Just read it," was Jem's answer.

Madge unfolded the paper gently, and read slowly through, pausing once to look over at Jem who nodded.

     "Dear Jem
           How cliched this will sound, but if you are reading this letter, it will be because I am dead. Naturally I hope therefore that you will not have to read this, but it is as well to be prepared in this uncertain world in which we live. This is a very difficult request to make, especially as we haven't seen each other for so long, and so much has changed in both our lives in those years. Now however, when I contemplate leaving my children through death, I find myself hoping against hope that you will put aside the ill feelings we have known and remember again the love we shared many years ago. I hope for the sake of that love that you will accept my children, take them in, love them and give them a home.
           I feel also that it is only fair that I give you a full understanding of my children, so that you will be able to explain to them if it should become necessary, as well it might given the circumstances. How I wish I needen't tell you this story, for it affects not only myself, but other people too. Oh Jem, how I hope that this letter will not be needed! I have a confession to make that reflects badly on myself, and it shames me to have to tell you that my daughters, Daisy and Primula, have different fathers. Please dear Jem, do not be angry at me when youread this, for angry I know you will be, but please read on and show your sister a little consideration before banishing all thoughts of me from your mind.
           You will have guessed, or been told, by now that my marriage has not been a happy one. I do not say that as an excuse for what has happened, but merely to tell you how this has happened. I ask for no forgiveness, I have sinned and I am aware of that fact. What I must tell you now however is that Primula's father is a man called Ken Mackenzie. I met him and his wife when they were travelling through Australia on their way to New Zealand. I never meant for anything of the kind to happen, but he was so kind to me, so considerate at a time I felt so vunerable, that I mistook his kindness for love. How I reconciled this with im being married, I cannot say. I think I must have allowed my own emotional needs to put aside any thought of who else would be hurt by my actions.
           However, I must also tell you there was another reason behind my actions, a reason I refused to accept for a long time. Looking back I realise though that this second reason was a driving force, a real thorn in my side for so many years, and in many ways, I acted brazenly in an attempt to cast out this thorn. For you see Jem, Daisy is not my daughter. Daisy is the product of a liaison Stephen had on one of his binges. He went away for several months and returned with a child. He never told me exactly who the child belonged to, but I was faced with the choice of bringing Daisy up as my own, or casting her out and treating her as a burden. I could not do that to any child Jem, and I hope and pray that you will also show the child the same consideration.
           I did make discreet enquiries, as would any woman faced with the same situation. Jem , oh Jem, I believe, from the bottom of my heart I believe that Daisy is the daughter of Ken Mackenzie. Do you understand now why I felt that frenzy? Can you imagine how I felt? It was as if I were being offered a chance to unite my family, make them a whole family. I have no proof of this, apart from a scrap of paper Stephen had overlooked in the basket Daisy was brought to me in. In itself, it would prove nothing, but Jem, a woman knows some things without needing them to be spelt out in black and white.
           So Jem, your choice now is simple. I am asking you to take my children and love them. If however you don't wish to do this, your other choice is to track down the Mackenzie's wherever they may be in the world now, and present them with two daughters. I hope from the bottom of my heart that you will take the first option, but if you feel unable to do so after all I have told you, nobody would blame you, least of all myself.      

           Your loving sister

                       Margot"

Madge finished reading this epistle and slowly folded the pages, and handed them back to Jem.
     "But how did Joey find out about this?" she asked at last.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Nicolette on Jan 16th, 2004, 11:55pm
Yes, how did Joey find this out?

Am slightly confused Rachel, which sister is the product of whom?  ???

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 16th, 2004, 11:59pm
Yay thanks Rachel

*sits down to wonder how Joey knew*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 17th, 2004, 12:06am

on 01/16/04 at 23:55:47, Nicolette wrote:
Am slightly confused Rachel, which sister is the product of whom?  ???



Daisy is the child of Stephen Venables and Mollie Mackenzie nee Maynard

Primula is the daughter of Margot Venables and Ken Mackenzie

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Pat on Jan 17th, 2004, 12:09am
It takes a twisted mind to think that one up!  

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 17th, 2004, 12:10am

on 01/17/04 at 00:09:06, Pat wrote:
It takes a twisted mind to think that one up!  



Thank you Aunty Pat   ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 17th, 2004, 12:12am
Wow thats a complicated matter of parentige

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Lesley on Jan 17th, 2004, 12:36am
I assume then that Joey found out from her sister-in-law? This explains why she and Jack were so desperate to have the girls stay with them - and why they would have settled for just Daisy as she really is their niece!

Poor Daisy and Primula are not related at all!

Thank you Rachel - intriguing!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 17th, 2004, 12:44am
*mind boggling*

thank you Rachel!! More soon please!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 17th, 2004, 3:08am
*looks stern* Rachel, that was really unnecessarily complicated!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by PatMac on Jan 17th, 2004, 8:52am
Well!!!  I never guessed - but then how could I?

You had us suspecting Jack and Jem and scratching our heads for other men from that era.  Very clever!

the only complaint I have is that Jem should have kept his big mouth shut!  He caused unneccesary suffering and should only have told them if they were likely to marry too closely for safe genetic reasons ........................ but then we wouldn't have had this drabble! and that would have been sad for us.

On the whole, I'd rather we were happy than a load of fictional characters!   ::)

btw  Thank you  (see, I did remember my manners)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Lesley on Jan 17th, 2004, 9:00am
So why did Jem speak to Primula about the fact that she was a b*stard but not to Daisy - who was not even related to him?

*Thinks Jem was unneccessarily cruel and Joey even more so as she seemed to be delighting in the predicament.*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 17th, 2004, 9:57am
Rachel please may wehave some more story!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 17th, 2004, 10:54am

on 01/17/04 at 08:52:04, PatMac wrote:
the only complaint I have is that Jem should have kept his big mouth shut!


But then we would have had no story!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Nicolette on Jan 17th, 2004, 11:09am
[quote author=Lesley link=board=drabbles;num=1073957599;start=100#109 date=01/17/04 at 09:00:21
*Thinks Jem was unneccessarily cruel and Joey even more so as she seemed to be delighting in the predicament.*[/quote]

Yes, why was Joey so pleased? Is she hoping to have more claim over Daisy now?

ETA and presumbaly, Jack knows about this? And if so what's his thoughts?


Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 17th, 2004, 11:23am
Maybe Jo had only heard half the story and thought Jack was the father of one or both of the girls somehow. Or maybe she just has a lot of schadenfreude.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Jennie on Jan 17th, 2004, 12:58pm
No, I think it goes deeper than that. She wanted the girls, Jem and Madge seemed to have the prior claim, so now she's rejoicing that Jem has no claim on either of them.
Typical Jo, not to realise that the girls' predicament means that Madge's compassion will mean that she will cling to the girls even more to try to make them happy.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 17th, 2004, 1:20pm
That was complicated.

Poor girls. Hope they can stay with Madge. Joey and Jem shouldn't be allowed anywhere near them.

Wonder what Jack will make of all this?

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by LauraT on Jan 17th, 2004, 1:24pm

on 01/17/04 at 13:20:30, Carolyn P wrote:
Poor girls. Hope they can stay with Madge. Joey and Jem shouldn't be allowed anywhere near them.


Ah, Jem just went mildly up in my estimation after he confessed all to Madge (mainly because I cant remember exactly what he said to Prim originally!)  :)

However, Joey is a selfish s p o o n (from the point of view of the sensor) and deserves to be slapped.  >:(

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Jennie on Jan 17th, 2004, 2:08pm
I second that, Laura. Let's all give Joey a good slap.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Lesley on Jan 17th, 2004, 3:04pm
*Queuing up behind Jennie!*

It's funny - in some drabbles Joey comes across as pleasant and similar to the books, some she has understandable problems (Dancer and Con and Margot) but in this one I just want to slap her!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 17th, 2004, 3:18pm

on 01/17/04 at 09:00:21, Lesley wrote:
So why did Jem speak to Primula about the fact that she was a b*stard but not to Daisy - who was not even related to him?



I did warn you all that the continuity of this story had gone to pieces! I suppose the only way to reconcile it is that in the first posting, I did say that Daisy had dashed off to be alone when she heard the news. You could maybe take that to mean that she ran off before Jem had a chance to tell her about her own parentage?

I'll write you all some more of this later on maybe, and explain about Jo's reaction further. Remember though that this is an ALTERNATIVE story, and doesn't tie in with the CS as you know it!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Nicolette on Jan 17th, 2004, 4:29pm

on 01/17/04 at 11:23:02, KB wrote:
schadenfreude.


? ? KB ?  ???

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 17th, 2004, 5:22pm
Schadenfreude
Taking joy in the sufferings of someone else.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 17th, 2004, 8:36pm
*chants at Rachel to provide the next part!!*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Ally on Jan 17th, 2004, 9:13pm
Yikes that was confusing!!

Is anyone going to tell the MacKenzies about these children??

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Alison on Jan 17th, 2004, 9:20pm
Well, having just read the whole story (to say nothing of the yibbling!) in one sitting, I am shocked by it all - so unexpected!

More please, Rachel *smiles sweetly and hopefully*

Must say, I got confused at first - had so many ideas of who the father might be that when Mackenzie was first mentioned, my immediate thought was Con Stewart's husband - but now I'm wondering if i've got myself totally muddled and she didn't marry someone called Mackenzie???


Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 17th, 2004, 9:53pm

on 01/17/04 at 16:29:47, Nicolette wrote:
? ? KB ?  ???


Sorry, Nicci. SOmetimes I forget that some words in German aren't common among English-speakers.  :-[

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 17th, 2004, 10:13pm
*sniffle*
Make us non-german speakers feel inferior, why don't you? ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 17th, 2004, 10:30pm
Rachel you haven't posted here either. Where are you?

Vikki, I don't speak German either, but have come across that particular word.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by crashbb on Jan 17th, 2004, 10:34pm

on 01/17/04 at 22:13:40, Vikki wrote:
*sniffle*
Make us non-german speakers feel inferior, why don't you? ;)


I don't speak German either and wasn't familiar with that word, but ain't nobody gonna make me feel inferior - I just figured out how to put 2 axes on one graph in Stata!  So there!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 17th, 2004, 10:41pm

on 01/17/04 at 22:13:40, Vikki wrote:
*sniffle*
Make us non-german speakers feel inferior, why don't you? ;)


Aw, Vikki! *huggles*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 17th, 2004, 11:02pm
Yay!!! A huggle!! ;) ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 17th, 2004, 11:06pm
Well, of course!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Kathy_S on Jan 17th, 2004, 11:12pm
But KB’s word does show up in ordinary reading now and then, so we can count it as Improving our Vocabulary.

(Note: The only time Kathy attempted German in Germany, the train station guy asked her to speak English, please.)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by LauraT on Jan 17th, 2004, 11:13pm

on 01/17/04 at 22:30:26, Carolyn P wrote:
Rachel you haven't posted here either. Where are you?

Vikki, I don't speak German either, but have come across that particular word.


Really? How random!  Says she, who had german lessons for a year and can still only say 'That's not my suitcase, my suitcase is black --- but Hans, that's my suitcase, my suitcase is brown!' and 'The fire engine is broken!'

More story please!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by PatMac on Jan 17th, 2004, 11:18pm

on 01/17/04 at 22:34:08, crashbb wrote:
I don't speak German either and wasn't familiar with that word, but ain't nobody gonna make me feel inferior - I just figured out how to put 2 axes on one graph in Stata!  So there!


Well done, Chelsea!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Pat on Jan 17th, 2004, 11:20pm
Isn't there any more of this yet? ::) ::)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:22am

on 01/17/04 at 21:20:46, Alison wrote:
W when Mackenzie was first mentioned, my immediate thought was Con Stewart's husband - but now I'm wondering if i've got myself totally muddled and she didn't marry someone called Mackenzie???



You are quite correct - Con Stewart married a Mackenzie but going by the A-Z of CS characters, Mollie Maynard ALSO married a Mackenzie (amongst other names!)



And Carolyn, I have been out with the nice chappie again hence no posting  ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:26am

on 01/18/04 at 00:22:15, Rachel wrote:
And Carolyn, I have been out with the nice chappie again hence no posting  ;D


Oh, do tell. Please. that's just as interesting. :-*  ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:31am

on 01/18/04 at 00:26:22, Carolyn P wrote:
Oh, do tell. Please. that's just as interesting. :-*  ;)



I had a pleasant evening out.

I enjoyed my evening out.

The company was delightful.

I hope to repeat the procedure in the future.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:48am
How restrained of you dear.

You must be trying very hard if you haven't scared him off yet. ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:50am
Rachel, I think Carolyn was hoping for a bit more in the way of gory details..... ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:50am
I just smile sweetly a lot and try to refrain from opening my mouth.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:55am

on 01/18/04 at 00:50:26, Rachel wrote:
I just smile sweetly a lot and try to refrain from opening my mouth.


8oo 8oo 8oo





























....sorry, can't stop laughing.......

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:59am
Hey! It must be working so far! He hasn't called me and told me he's moving to Istanbul!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 18th, 2004, 1:01am
Is that what they usually do then?

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 18th, 2004, 1:02am
Only the last 46

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Jan 18th, 2004, 1:09am
Aaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwww!! Rachel!! You poor thing!
*big huggles*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by KB on Jan 18th, 2004, 1:31am

on 01/18/04 at 01:02:36, Rachel wrote:
Only the last 46


Why, what happened to the other 72?

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Sarah_K on Jan 18th, 2004, 1:46am
Wow, you don't do things by halves do you? Thinking a lot better of Jem for talking and a lot worse of Joey just because. I loved the teapot moment though  :D
As soon as I read Mackenzie I thought of Mollie Maynard but I wasn't expecting the other half (ie that she had an illegitimate child too!)
Glad you enjoyed your evening too!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Susan on Jan 18th, 2004, 3:02am
Glad you had a nice evening Rachel.  More story soon please!

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Lesley on Jan 18th, 2004, 9:11am
*Glad things are going well between you and nice chappie, Rachel, now please post more story!*

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Pat on Jan 18th, 2004, 9:52am
I'm glad things are going well for you Rachel. Just don't introduce him to your menagerie!!!  ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by LauraT on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:45pm
Does he know about the CBB?!  ???

Am very impressed at your restraint, but more story please!  ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 18th, 2004, 12:47pm
[quote author=KB link=board=drabbles;num=1073957599;start=120#125 date=01/17/04 at 21:53:54]

Sorry, Nicci. SOmetimes I forget that some words in German aren't common among English-speakers.  :-[/quote]

 :-[ Well i'm a semi-german speaker and had never heard of it before  :-[

Please may we have more story

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Ally on Jan 18th, 2004, 9:42pm
Please Rachel, I think its time for some more story  ;D

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by LauraT on Jan 18th, 2004, 9:51pm
So do I!  :D *hopeful smiley*

By the way, what's the Rachel smiley on the new board?! Am highly intrieged/worried/nervous/scared by this prospect!  ???

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Rachel on Jan 18th, 2004, 10:34pm

on 01/18/04 at 21:51:15, LauraT wrote:
By the way, what's the Rachel smiley on the new board?!



I'm getting my own smiley?? ???



I assume it will be the prettiest one available, cute, delightful and angelilc looking? Possibly with the slightest hint of a carving knife?

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Pat on Jan 18th, 2004, 10:44pm
It's more likely to be bright red and have horns growing out of its head Rachel!!! ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Chloe on Jan 18th, 2004, 10:45pm

on 01/18/04 at 22:34:33, Rachel wrote:
I'm getting my own smiley?? ???


We decided it was a very you smiley that was all  ;D

please may we have more story

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Carolyn P on Jan 18th, 2004, 10:55pm
The Rachel smiley is very apt, you will love it. I think that is all that needs to be said, except that everyone of us agreed.

Now, where is the rest of this story.

Title: Re: Primula "Venables"? ~ Part Three
Post by Vikki on Today at 12:04am

on 01/18/04 at 22:44:21, Pat wrote:
It's more likely to be bright red and have horns growing out of its head Rachel!!! ;) ;) ;)

Have you been to the new board then Pat? ;) ;D



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