Sheepdogging
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#1: Sheepdogging Author: Nicci, Location: UK PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:03 pm

This occured to me the other day reading one of the drabbles.

When did EBD first refer to the new girls being sheepdogged? Does anyone know where she got this phrase from? My sister and I have always used it, but that obviously came from reading the books.

 

#2:  Author: Cazx, Location: Swansea/Bristol PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:14 pm

I think it starts in the Swiss books, I just glanced at my copy of Three Go and Vi is asked to look after M-L rather than to sheepdog her.

 

#3:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:25 pm

It certainly seems to be in the later books, and more when younger girls enter than when older ones do. I don't remember Naomi getting 'a sheepdog', for instance. That said, Caroline German did use it in "Robin", didn't she?

 

#4:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:05 am

I thought I remember a reference of it in Tyrol - in relation to Corney when she first gets there.

I could be dreaming in technicolour, though.

 

#5:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:20 am

That's better than dreaming in B&W!

 

#6:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:27 am

It wasn't even dreaming. I found it.

Joey is asked to take Corney to the form room where she pretty much abandons her.

Quote:
She had a rooted objection to "doing sheepdog," and her theory was that new girls got on best if left to find their own feet.


My how she changes!

 

#7:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:31 am

Does she ever! Shocked

 

#8:  Author: Nicci, Location: UK PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:40 am

*also shocked* Shocked Shocked

 

#9:  Author: Cazx, Location: Swansea/Bristol PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:22 am

*Joins in with being Shocked* Shocked

 

#10:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:04 pm

*admits to poor journalistic technique in kinda quoting out of context. The next sentence reads:

Quote:
Perhaps if Cornelia had shown any signs of being nervous she would have stayed, but that was the last thing the new girl was.


She has everyone over for 'New Girl's Tea', but the only ones she keeps after are the ones who appear nervous or otherwise troubled.

 

#11:  Author: Sarah_L, Location: Redcar PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:01 pm

I am shocked at Jo's attitude in HG there. Seems a bit selfish.

 

#12:  Author: LL, Location: Tottenham, London PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:45 pm

what? really? oh my god, must have a look. Embarassed

 

#13:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:44 pm

I figure that it is no wonder that Corney didn't like her.

 

#14:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:03 pm

Although she did forgive and forget later...

 

#15:  Author: Carolyn P, Location: Lancaster, England PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:34 am

Joey really changed as she grew up didn't she.

 

#16:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:46 am

The question is whether or not it was for the better. After all, she did lose the bad parts of her character, such as her short temper.

 

#17:  Author: Sarah_L, Location: Redcar PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:00 pm

She is so patient in later books.

 

#18:  Author: LL, Location: Tottenham, London PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:31 pm

she mainly gets nicer but i don't know if she's so nice as a head girl... but then, HGs do have to be bossy don't they... Embarassed

 

#19:  Author: Rachael,  PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:47 pm

LOL!

*trying to keep straight face Cool *

 

#20:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:22 am

*eyes Lydia thoughtfully*

 

#21:  Author: Mandy, Location: Derry, N.Ireland PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:03 am

*holds open the door to allow everyone else to leave the room*

 

#22:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:23 am

*stops Lydia from leaving and suggests we have a 'talk'*

 

#23:  Author: Vikki, Location: Possibly in hell! It's certainly hot enough....... PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:04 pm

*feels immense sympathy for
Lydia.......*

 

#24:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:12 pm

remains outside the door with a fresh hankie for LL

 

#25:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:33 am

*sends out tearful Lydia to be comforted by others*

 

#26:  Author: Catherine_B, Location: Oxford, UK PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:31 pm

*drags the thread approximately back to the topic Smile*

We used to have sheepdogs at Newnham, when people came for interview! Xan, is that still the case now?

 

#27:  Author: Xanthe, Location: London/Cambridge PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:00 am

Yup, we still have them Catherine... and we have them when we arrive at the start of term as well, now I think of it!

 

#28:  Author: Sarah_L, Location: Redcar PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:33 pm

We don't have sheepdogs at Magdalen. Sad

 

#29:  Author: pim, Location: the place where public transport doesn't work properly! PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:31 pm

We have academic families which is kind of the same thing, but not. Basically third and fourth years adopt first years as children and then have a big party weekend during Christmas term. Basically means everyone in St Andrews is related to each other, which is quite entertaining.

 

#30:  Author: Liss, Location: Harrow, London PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:09 pm

Most of the colleges my friends and I were at had some kind of 'big sister'/'big brother' type scheme so that Freshers were taken under the wings of second years. They were at the friendlier end of the college spectrum, though.

 

#31:  Author: Rebecca, Location: Kendal/Oxford PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:37 pm

We have college parents at my college. It means we're all hopelessly inbred!

ETA: Rather like the CS in fact!

 

#32:  Author: Xanthe, Location: London/Cambridge PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:52 am

We have college mummys... but we ALSO have sheepdogs...

I'm going to marry my college sister, which may result in inbreeding, but as neglected children we don't know any better...

 

#33:  Author: Nell, Location: London, England PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:18 pm

deja vu...didn't you say this somewhere else too Xan!!

 

#34:  Author: Sarah_L, Location: Redcar PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:28 pm

We did have college parents, but some were better than others. My 'father' only spoke to me once but my 'mother' was a bit better. Makes it fun to work out family trees, particularly when you add real relationships into the equation!

 

#35:  Author: Xanthe, Location: London/Cambridge PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:09 pm

Nell wrote:
deja vu...didn't you say this somewhere else too Xan!!


In an MSN conversation I think...

 

#36:  Author: Nell, Location: London, England PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:05 pm

Ah that would be it! We didn't really have anything like that, I don't think...if we did mine were obviously useless as i don't remember!

 

#37:  Author: Katarzyna, Location: Preston, Lancashire PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:15 pm

I went to a "new university" in the days when it was very new indeed!

we didn't have any of this interbreeding that appears to go on in the older instututions Wink

 

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