can you really catch your death of cold?
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#1: can you really catch your death of cold? Author: keren,  PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:15 pm

Can you really get very sick if you get wet and do not chagne your clothes ( althea, ninas cousin, various joey and robin as well as Mavis in enid blyton school series

 

#2:  Author: Cazx, Location: Swansea/Bristol PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:02 pm

You could probably get pneumonia from wearing wet clothes for long enough and especially if you continued to be out in the cold!

 

#3:  Author: Rosie, Location: Huntingdonshire PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:25 pm

I have a funny feeling I have caught colds after getting soaked waiting for the school bus in the rain and not being able to get dry for another 8 hours!!

 

#4:  Author: Sarah_L, Location: Redcar PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:30 pm

Poor Rosie. Didn't your school have radiators you could lean against?

 

#5:  Author: Chloë, Location: London: when away from home planet! PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:28 pm

You mean school radiators are supposed to work! Shocked

 

#6:  Author: Abi, Location: Alton, Hants PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:55 pm

Of course they work!! They work in the height of summer when the temperature is already 35 degrees in the shade and everyone has heat stroke. That's when school radiators work Laughing

 

#7:  Author: Nicci, Location: UK PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:31 pm

Abi wrote:
Of course they work!! They work in the height of summer when the temperature is already 35 degrees in the shade and everyone has heat stroke. That's when school radiators work Laughing


so it wasn't just our school then?! Rolling Eyes

 

#8:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:45 pm

Cazx wrote:
You could probably get pneumonia from wearing wet clothes for long enough and especially if you continued to be out in the cold!


Not unless you are harbour S. pneumoniae (the bacteria that causes pneumonia) or a viral pneumonia. The same is true for a cold or influenza - being cold will not give you these diseases. Nor will taking off layers after/during exercise or getting/staying wet.

If however, you are harbouring bacteria/viruses and you do something to reduce your immunity, you could be more prone to getting sick.

Chelsea *just back from a run in which our run coach warned us against overdressing since we'd get too hot and then try to shed layers which "would lead to pneumonia".

 

#9:  Author: Rosie, Location: Huntingdonshire PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:48 pm

*giggles* Nope! We found a copy of the leaflet/programme given out at the opening (well, moving into new building really) of our school in 1930 - there was a photo showing the new radiators they'd had to put in to convert Lady Someone-or-other's childhood home into a school and they are the exact same ones that we have now!!

 

#10:  Author: claire, Location: SOUTH WALES PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:07 pm

It's something your gran always warned you about though, like going out with wet hair would always lead to a cold in my nan's opinion - never did though (and when we had swimming at school noone ever had dry hair for the rest of the day, it was hardenough to get it to stop dripping in the time given to get dressed never mind throughly dry it

 

#11:  Author: Ray, Location: Bristol, England PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:10 pm

Chelsea wrote:
Cazx wrote:
You could probably get pneumonia from wearing wet clothes for long enough and especially if you continued to be out in the cold!


Not unless you are harbour S. pneumoniae (the bacteria that causes pneumonia) or a viral pneumonia. The same is true for a cold or influenza - being cold will not give you these diseases. Nor will taking off layers after/during exercise or getting/staying wet.

If however, you are harbouring bacteria/viruses and you do something to reduce your immunity, you could be more prone to getting sick.

Chelsea *just back from a run in which our run coach warned us against overdressing since we'd get too hot and then try to shed layers which "would lead to pneumonia".


Very true. On the other hand, though, you CAN catch a chill - which would reduce your immunity etc etc etc.

Ray *has gotten very sick from exactly that set of circs* *the being stuck in wet clothing not the running*

 

#12:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:42 pm

Oh of course. Actually, I meant to write

If however, you are harbouring bacteria/viruses and you do something to reduce your immunity (which these actions could do - since your body is busy keeping you warm) , you could be more prone to getting sick.

 

#13:  Author: Ray, Location: Bristol, England PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:08 pm

Sorry Chelsea - I knew that was what you were driving at; just wanted to be clear...

Ray *blushing*

 

#14:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:10 pm

Ray wrote:
Sorry Chelsea - I knew that was what you were driving at; just wanted to be clear...

Ray *blushing*


No apology needed. It was one of those cases where what I was thinking in my head, didn't appear in what I was writing on the screen Wink

 

#15:  Author: Ray, Location: Bristol, England PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:11 pm

Ray *huggles Chelsea and writes out in her least worst handwriting "I will not act like a ten tonne gorilla on CBB threads*

 

#16:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:11 pm

Not only must heaters be on during summer, air conditioners must be active through the whole six months of winter!

 

#17:  Author: Kate, Location: Ireland PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:26 pm

Can you get rheumatic fever from being wet and cold? Phoebe did - and so did that girl in Rivals.

 

#18:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:28 pm

Well, as rheumatic fever is caused by bacteria, it follows the same principle as other diseases caused by bacteria.

 

#19:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:38 pm

Rheumatic fever is caused by untreated strep. throat. I don't think that they'd have known about strep. throat back then (and certainly didn't have the antibiotics to treat it), so I imagine that what actually happened is that Phoebe got strep. throat which developed into rheumatic fever.

Her longterm condition was likely due to rheumatic disease in which the heart valves have been permentantly damaged making the heart inefficient at pumping out blood. I'm not sure how the arthritis ties in, though they may be linked, especially if she had rheumatiod arthritis.

 

#20:  Author: Rosie, Location: Huntingdonshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:06 am

KB wrote:
Not only must heaters be on during summer, air conditioners must be active through the whole six months of winter!


Air conditioning???? We have windows. And even they don't necessarily open... Unless someone throws a brick through them.

 

#21:  Author: pim, Location: the place where public transport doesn't work properly! PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:49 am

Nicci wrote:
Abi wrote:
Of course they work!! They work in the height of summer when the temperature is already 35 degrees in the shade and everyone has heat stroke. That's when school radiators work Laughing


so it wasn't just our school then?! Rolling Eyes



Ahh, glad it wasn't just my school then. I remember doing my mock GCSEs in the gym and freezing to death because the heater didn't work and the invigilator pushhing a portable heater around but then in summer us roasting to death because the heating suddenly decided to work.

Isolation was always the worst though because that was actually in the boiler room next to the gym Very Happy

 

#22:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:40 am

Rosie wrote:
Air conditioning???? We have windows. And even they don't necessarily open... Unless someone throws a brick through them.


You don't live in a sauna masquerading as a country. *mutter* *grumble*

 

#23:  Author: Abi, Location: Alton, Hants PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:25 am

I went in a sauna once Shocked Shocked Shocked It nearly killed me Shocked Shocked Shocked

 

#24:  Author: Nicci, Location: UK PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:31 am

KB wrote:
Rosie wrote:
Air conditioning???? We have windows. And even they don't necessarily open... Unless someone throws a brick through them.


You don't live in a sauna masquerading as a country. *mutter* *grumble*


*g* do you wanna swap KB?

 

#25:  Author: pim, Location: the place where public transport doesn't work properly! PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:32 am

Mmmmmmmmm saunas, haven't had a good sauna in aaaaaaaaages (will remedy that in Helsinki hopefully). The gym I used to go to had a sauna but then they went off and closed down Evil or Very Mad It's so cold here I could do with a sauna in my bathroom Smile

 

#26:  Author: keren,  PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:35 am

I was just wondering as my daughter went out for a march/dance in really pouring rain and freezing cold and did not use an umbella and opened her coat. Her clothes were really wet through, and by the time she got home she had been in them for some time.
All the worst chalet school stories came back to me as we waited for her to get a roaring temp.
Lucky to report , she is OK

 

#27:  Author: Rachel, Location: Plotting in my lair; sometimes in Hampshire, England, UK, Europe, Earth, Milky Way, Universe PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:55 am

I managed to go down with bronchitis during the hottest summer on record last year after going out dancing in a thunder storm and getting saturated, then falling asleep in my wet clothes. The storm was amazingly beautiful though with fork lightening flashing against the mountains in scotland and the thunder rolling round and round the loch. Very CS and very poetic! Wink

I think I have fairly low immunity to everything though as I seem to go down with anything and everything and change from being quite well to really ill in about ten minutes!

 

#28:  Author: Rosie, Location: Huntingdonshire PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:40 pm

KB wrote:
Rosie wrote:
Air conditioning???? We have windows. And even they don't necessarily open... Unless someone throws a brick through them.


You don't live in a sauna masquerading as a country. *mutter* *grumble*


Too right I don't! I had to stand and wait for the bus in SNOW this morning! Every car that went past blew snow into my face! And I couldn't find my gloves so by the time the bus turned up my hands were purple... But I LOVE snow!!

 

#29:  Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:53 pm

Rachel, you are not to get sick before the Gathering!

And I would be happy to swap, but my parents can't travel at the moment and I don't want to abandon them on the other side of the world yet...

 

#30:  Author: Marianne, Location: Bournemouth PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:56 pm

Ah...as i'm always trying to tell my dad...who shouts at us for walking about barefoot...bacteria is definitely required to make one ill!

The windows at school don't open properly or shut properly and the radiators are equally as ineffective...might as well do lessons on the bloody field!

 

#31:  Author: Lisa_T, Location: Belfast PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:20 am

Oh, schools and heating! Ours only came on on Thursday. What was the use of that? I used to get shouted at in History and Art 'cos i insisted on keeping my coat on. My History teacher objected on the grounds that it made her think I was gonna do a runner. My Art teacher objected on CS grounds- I'd take cold when i went out. But it was mean! My art cubicle was next to the flippin' window!

Re rheumatic fever- you can get it from strep. When I was feeling very ill and weak after a throat abcess, the doctor wanted to know if i had pains in my arms and legs at all, in case it was that. It wasn't. it was 'post viral syndrome' which wasn't helpful! Wink

What's the difference between a chill and a cold?

 

#32:  Author: Ray, Location: Bristol, England PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:30 am

My understanding (and I'm sure people will put me right if I'm wrong!) is that a cold is caused by a virus while a chill is something that happens because you've got too cold for your body to be able to cope.

Ray *thinks that's right*

 

#33:  Author: catherine, Location: York PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:41 pm

What exactly are the symptoms of a chill? How do they differ to a cold?

'scuse my ignorance!!


And someone tell me how you get rid of a 3 (well almost!) month old chesty cough?!!

 

#34:  Author: Sarah_L, Location: Redcar PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:50 pm

I've learnt something from this thread.

 

#35:  Author: Angel, Location: London, England PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:50 pm

Go to the doctor and get checked for TB?

 

#36:  Author: catherine, Location: York PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:11 pm

Angel! Shocked Shocked

Mother's little comforter, aren't you?!

I certainly haven't got TB!

 

#37:  Author: Angel, Location: London, England PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:18 pm

I didn't mean you had it.

I meant that if you threaten ills with doctors, they often disappear of their own accord, so you look really really silly.

 

#38:  Author: catherine, Location: York PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:07 am

Oh yes! I've been there! I did something to a nerve or something in my back when I was in France, on my year abroad and it hurt right up until I went to the doctor when I was back in the UK! Then, of course, it miraculously disappeared!

I'm not actually registered with a doctor Embarassed somehow, I just never found the time! There is one near me and I will attempt to register there soon! I believe they operate a same day appointments only so perhaps I'll not look a fool!

Mightily relieved to hear you didn't mean I had TB!

 

#39:  Author: Angel, Location: London, England PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:25 am

to be serious though, all that coughing isn't good for your chest muscles. Taking it to the Dr might be a very good move.

 

#40:  Author: Lisa_T, Location: Belfast PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:36 am

It might not be the same cough, Catherine. I mean, you've been working with small kids and we were warned that you can expect to spend the first 3 or 4 years of teaching (including pgce) being more or less constantly ill cos of the exposure to the bugs. Then the body builds immunity. Having said that, the lecturer who give us this gem of information was suffering from a very nasty cold at the time..
But I agree with Angel. If you've tried the over the counter remedies with no success, it might be time to visit the dr..

 

#41:  Author: Angel, Location: London, England PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:39 am

I tend to think of chills as being Sinisitis under another name.

 

#42:  Author: Helen, Location: Melbourne, Australia PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:06 am

I just read an interview with the writer Tom Sharpe and he said that his father went for a walk, caught a chill and died a few days later of pneumonia. He was a man in his seventies so he may had health problems already.

My mother can always remember being told by a great-aunt about a girl who went to a dance in a thin little frock on a winter's night, caught a chill and "she was gone within a couple of days!!"

 

#43:  Author: keren,  PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:09 am

also my grandpas said he had a sister, who this happened to, but maybe she was ill already

 

#44:  Author: catherine, Location: York PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:53 pm

Lisa_T wrote:
It might not be the same cough, Catherine. I mean, you've been working with small kids and we were warned that you can expect to spend the first 3 or 4 years of teaching (including pgce) being more or less constantly ill cos of the exposure to the bugs. Then the body builds immunity. Having said that, the lecturer who give us this gem of information was suffering from a very nasty cold at the time..
But I agree with Angel. If you've tried the over the counter remedies with no success, it might be time to visit the dr..


Why did I ever say I wanted to do teaching?!! Fairly sure it is the same cough since the one that started at the beginning of December has never gone, just calmed slightly. I avoided the doc as I was really run down and tired at that time and thought it would go over the holiday. It didn't and then I was straight into TP. I've my inner city placement next week - (another half five start! Yippee!!) and I don't really want to risk having to mess about with antibiotics so it'll have to be until after TG!!

 

#45:  Author: Vikki, Location: Possibly in hell! It's certainly hot enough....... PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:11 pm

Ouch!
*huggles Catherine*

 

#46:  Author: catherine, Location: York PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:18 am

*Huggles Vikki back*

 

#47:  Author: Lisa_T, Location: Belfast PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:38 pm

Don't blame you. For one thing, going on antibiotics would mean no Baileys. Then again, I've drank on ABs before. Admittedly not much, but I have. I never understand why you're not supposed to.

 

#48:  Author: claire, Location: SOUTH WALES PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:42 pm

cos you get drunk really fast

 

#49:  Author: Rosie, Location: Huntingdonshire PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:52 pm

Which is a bad thing because....?

 

#50:  Author: Ray, Location: Bristol, England PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:06 am

The medicine lowers your alcohol tolerance - which is bad enough if you're low in that department anyway; if you're used to having a very high tolerance then it means you can end up very, very, VERY sick. It can lead to alcohol poisoning (which is so unpleasant you really do NOT want to go there) and in the worst cases, that can lead you to a trip to hospital.

That's why you don't drink on top of medicine (be it painkillers, cold cure, AB's or anything else).

Ray *has been with people irresponsible enough to do this* *does not wish to repeat the experience*

 

#51:  Author: Lisa_T, Location: Belfast PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:41 pm

Ah ha! I see now. Well, to be fair to myself, I was on a permanent but VERY low dose to keep chronic tonsillitis under control so that I could have a normal-ish life while waiting for the op, and truth to tell, my immunity was so low that the morning after a night out would see me ill again for another fortnight, so after going out on ABs about three times, I gave up altogether for the best part of a year- much to my friends' annoyance.

 

#52:  Author: catherine, Location: York PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:46 pm

Don't all faint in horror but I don't actually like Baileys and I'm not a great drinker so that side of it wouldn't worry me! It's too late now anyway but messing around with antibiotics whilst on school placement doesn't appeal! I'll be very glad when next week is over, I've had more than enough of half five starts!

 

#53:  Author: Sarah_L, Location: Redcar PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:04 pm

I think your college is evil Catherine, giving you placements in schools that require half five starts.

 

#54:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:14 pm

Alcohol can also affect the medications making it less potent - same as some meds that need to be taken on a full or empty stomach.

 

#55:  Author: Elisabeth,  PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:31 pm

I once caught a cold from going outside barefoot on a cold night for 5 minutes.

 

#56:  Author: Chelsea, Location: Your Imagination PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:34 pm

Only if you were exposed to the cold virus at the same time.

 

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