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#1: Raise the scarlet standard high (updated 05/06/06, p.25) Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:52 pm
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Hopefully the first part of this, and \"A light that never goes out\" to which this is the sequel, will have been archived from the old board Very Happy , so here's a new bit.

Raise The Scarlet Standard High - Part One
Ally


Matron was never at her best during the first week of term. There were invariably problems with the unpacking – it was amazing how many people managed to forget crucial items time after time - and it always took the girls a few days to settle back into the routine of school life. She’d been looking forward to a quiet Saturday evening recovering from it all, and instead she’d been told that half a dozen members of Upper IV b had been misbehaving and would consequently be missing Saturday evening’s dancing and coming to her to spend the time hemming sheets instead. Why she was always the one who was expected to spend Saturday evenings supervising miscreants, she didn’t know.

So she was in a bad enough mood as it was, and when she found that a pile of sheets hadn’t been ironed to her exacting standards she marched down to the laundry room and demanded that they be ironed again at once. “I trust that you will see to it, Mrs Bradshaw,” she said icily to the new head of the domestic staff, who was in there at the time. “These sheets are to be ironed again immediately and brought up to me for inspection as soon as they are ready. This level of work simply isn’t good enough, and I would be obliged if you would try to ensure that things are done properly in future. We have high standards at this School, as these maids ought to know and as you will very soon find out if you haven’t done so already.”

“Don’t you take that tone of voice with me, lady,” Elsie said furiously. Who did the woman think she was, coming down here shouting the odds like that? She hadn’t been keen on Matron Lloyd from the start - some of the items in her room had seemed to have moved about slightly when she’d returned from that first day interview with Miss Annersley and she’d had the distinct feeling that Matron had been in there snooping – and she certainly wasn’t having anybody ordering her or anyone else in her department around in that manner. Did she think they’d nothing else to do with their time than iron a pile of sheets that had been ironed once already?

“Let’s have a look at them sheets,” she demanded. She took them out of Matron’s hands and ran her eye over them. She could quite honestly say that they looked perfectly all right to her. “Nothing wrong with them,” she sniffed, handing them straight back. “Now, if that’s all, I’d be obliged if you’d take your sheets back upstairs and let us get on with our work.”

“Mrs Bradshaw,” Matron said. “I don’t think you quite understand the position. I am the Head Matron of this School, and as such I am responsible for the dormitories and therefore for the state of the bed linen.”

“Yes, and I’m the Head of the domestic staff of this School, which makes me responsible for the ironing. If I say those sheets are all right, then they’re all right. Unless you want to iron them again yourself, of course.”

“Well really!” Matron said in disgust. She stood there and glared. Elsie stood there immovably, her arms folded in front of her; and the maids, who’d been watching the exchange with interest, moved to form a line behind her. Matron sniffed loudly, turned her back and left, taking the sheets with her.

The laundry maids were quick to tell the tale to the rest of the domestic staff, most of whom had fallen foul of Matron at one time or another, and Elsie soon found that publicly getting the better of Gwynneth Lloyd had been a crucial turning point for her - winning her the backing of her colleagues to an extent that no cook had enjoyed at the Chalet School since Karen had left, and strengthening her position immeasurably. Things couldn’t have gone better if she’d planned the incident with the sheets herself!


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#2:  Author: PatLocation: Doncaster PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:03 pm
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Twisted Evil At last someone has stood up to the 'domestic tyrant'!!! Good for Elsie!

#3:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:24 am
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Well done Elsie! As for Matey - has she ever told anyone that she doesn't like losing her Saturday evenings? Or does she just like playing the martyr?

Thanks Alison.

#4:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:14 am
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Oooohhh! Isn't it going to be a wonderful battle between the two of them! Thanks, Alison!

I wonder if anyone would have taken over Matey's job of looking after the miscreants on a Saturday evening, though; it's not the sort of school where one could just say "Oh, I think I deserve some time off on a Saturday night", either.

#5:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:58 am
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See, it was not only the cook who was expected to be permanently on duty.
Matron was always expected to be on duty, to get up in the night etc.
If she is not there it is because she went over to another house, or was ill. So are staff generally. There is not someone whose turn it is to get up if there are noises in the night Smile
What I mean is that the expectation to be always on duty was not confined to karen


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#6:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:01 am
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Oh, lovely, lovely.

So you can stand up to Matey and not die a slow and agonizing death. I had no idea.

Chang

#7:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:07 am
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Thanks Alison - about time someone told her off!

#8:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:27 am
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Thanks, Alison. I'm glad that Elsie told Matron off.

#9:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:43 am
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Hurrah! Well done Elsie!

But poor Matron with the Saturday night thing

Ironing sheets! Good grief, it's unlucky to sleep on ironed sheets anyway Wink

#10:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:05 am
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Maybe other members of staff will start to stand up for themselves - including Matron! There is always more than one point of view!

#11:  Author: VikkiLocation: Sitting on an iceberg, freezing to death!!! PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:40 pm
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Mia wrote:


Ironing sheets! Good grief, it's unlucky to sleep on ironed sheets anyway Wink



*giggles*
I shall have to remember that one!! Wink

Thanks Alison, methinks this will not be the last clash between Elsie and Matey!

#12:  Author: La Petite EmLocation: Cheltenham PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:48 pm
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I see Mrs Bradshaw's point of view exactly. If the sheets are reasonably clean and smooth it doesn't matter, they just get slept in anyway! Very Happy
Thanks Alison!

#13:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:34 pm
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*giggles muchly*

Thanks Alison, it was great to see the confrontation between them. I'm definitely on Mrs Bradshaw's side! You would have thought Matey would have better things to do with her time...

Kathryn

#14:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:47 am
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Thanks for the archiving, Ally Very Happy .

“How’s the new cook getting on?” Joey asked when Hilda and Nell joined her for English tea at Freudesheim two weeks after the start of term. “The girls tell me that she’s causing all sorts of trouble, but Rosli seems quite taken with her.”

Rosli?” Hilda asked in bemusement. “When did Rosli meet Mrs Bradshaw?” Surely Joey hadn’t got Elsie Bradshaw taking food parcels over to Freudesheim as Karen used to do – she couldn’t imagine that!

“Last week. I told Anna to make a big batch of lemon biscuits but she said she was running short of flour and hadn’t had chance to see about getting any more – it’s not like her to be so disorganised, I must say! – so I sent Rosli over to get some from the School kitchen. She said that your new cook was very pleasant, and that she’d said that it was nice to meet the neighbours and then something about sticking together. My daughters don’t seem very impressed with her, though.”

Hilda wondered about the “sticking together” comment, but decided to concentrate on answering Joey’s question. “How’s she getting on? Well, no-one turns up late for meals any more - but that’s because she’s told the maids that all the meals are to be put on the tables at set times and cleared away at set times, so anyone who arrives late gets their food cold and finds themselves having to clear their tables before they’ve finished eating. Nor are the maids spending their time mopping up spillages in the classrooms any more - but that’s because she’s told them that if anyone asks them to do so then they’re to ignore the request completely.

“She’s got the cleaning rota organised properly, so rooms aren’t ending up being cleaned when they’re meant to be in use any more - but most of the rooms aren’t being cleaned as often as they were previously. She says that people should only have to work so many hours in a day and that it’s not her fault or the maids’ fault that we haven’t got enough staff, and so she’s worked it all out so that none of the domestic staff are working more than seven hours a day. That’s also meaning that we’re only getting very simple meals – even though there’s nothing actually wrong with them - and that we’re sometimes having to wait several days for items to come back from the wash – even though when they are ready they always come back to the right people.

“Then, last Sunday, she refused to make picnics for the girls’ outing to Mahlhausen. She was told about it on Saturday night, but she said that she had nothing ready because she’d been given no notice, and that it wasn’t “on” to expect her to get up at “crack of dawn” to start making meat pies and lemonade for hundreds of people. We didn’t think she was being serious, but on the Sunday morning we found that there was nothing ready apart from the usual lunchtime cold meats and salads – so they had to take those, share them out as best they could and buy drinks there. Also, although I don’t know all the details, during the first week of term she was rather rude to Matron over some sheets that needed ironing – and in front of the laundry maids as well.”

#15:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:50 am
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Thanks Alison. Looking forward to see what happens next - is Elsie going to encourage Anna and Rosli to only work 7 hours a day?

#16:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:37 am
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Very good.
The thing about these drabbles is that it makes you think about general things happening in the CS.
Did She give Rosli flour, more interesting, did Joey/Anna return the flour, or did they consider that what was the school's was theirs.
Also, presumably the staff knew about the trips in advance, why only tell the kitchen at the last minute?

#17:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:10 am
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Thanks Alison, this is great. I do like Elsie, she's wonderful

#18:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:06 pm
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I don't know enough about working conditions in boarding schools to know if Elsie would have been considered completely unreasonable in the 50's, or even now. Surely some consideration would be expected a. because the girls are there 24/7 (not like canteen conditions after all) and b. because of the long holidays.

That doesn't excuse plain bad manners (not giving enough notice for example) or indeed bad management and I am being picky I know... but only because I'm really enjoying this and am getting involved with the issues.

#19:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:56 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I'm glad that things are running more efficiently with Elsie being in charge.

#20:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:03 pm
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Thanks Alison...Elsie is definitely making some interesting changes to the regime in the CS and not before time Very Happy

Kathryn

#21:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:23 pm
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This is absolutely fabulous, Alison. It's nice to hear that Hilda has noticed the good side to what Elsie...sorry, Mrs. Bradshaw, is doing. She sees the clothes coming back to the right person, the girls not being late for meals...all positive things. However, I'm sure the others don't feel quite so positive about it!
*Whispers 'What about matey?'*

#22:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:58 pm
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Wonder if Anna deliberately ran out of flour? Would love to see if Elsie had influenced Anna and Rosli.

At least she means what she says - in future they will give proper notice for outings. And the fact that rooms are being cleaned and laundry going back to correct people has also been noticed.

Thanks Alison.

#23:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:13 pm
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Well I for one am glad to see that Hilda, for all that it's obviously annoying her, can appreciate what Mrs Bradshaw is doing.

Thanks Alison

#24:  Author: Sarah_LLocation: Leeds PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:49 pm
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And at least she's stuck to calling her Mrs Bradshaw, even amongst friends. When is the Joey/Elsie confrontation going to happen btw?

#25:  Author: MaryRLocation: Cheshire PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:07 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I felt as breathless as Hilda sounded when she recounted all that. Laughing

#26:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:19 am
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Thanks for the comments Very Happy !

Nell took up the tale at this point. “It’s a very difficult situation. We don’t really want to have to start looking for yet another cook, and from what I’m told there’s no denying the fact that in many ways things are running more efficiently than they’ve done at any time since Karen left. However, her behaviour and some of the working practices she’s introduced are completely unacceptable, especially this notion of only working so many hours a day regardless of what may or may not need doing; and, quite apart from that, we can’t have anyone, especially a member of the domestic staff, just doing things as she personally sees fit.

“If we’re seen to be accepting of one person making changes unilaterally and setting their own standards, sooner or later other people will want to do the same and then there’ll be chaos. She already seems to have the full support of the rest of the domestic staff. Incidentally, we’ve also found out that she lets them stay out until all hours – she’ll give the key to the kitchen door to any of the maids who tells her that they’re going to be late in.

“We’re also concerned that she might be unsettling some of the junior mistresses. Hilda heard Kathie Ferrars and Sharlie Andrews muttering something the other day about it not being at all convenient having lessons cancelled to make way for trips down to Lake Thun, especially during this term when there are public exams, and not being happy about being expected to give up their evenings to help with school plays and other activities; and that as you know is not the sort of attitude that we expect at the Chalet School.”

“Well, she sounds like trouble to me,” Joey said frankly. “We’ve been going for twenty two years and our systems work perfectly well as they are, and even if changes were needed it certainly wouldn’t be for someone who’d only been at the School for a fortnight to start making them at will. It sounds to me as if, on top of being workshy and generally obstructive, she’s only interested in making life easy for her own department rather than being concerned with what’s best for the School as a whole. That sort of attitude isn’t what we want at all. You can’t have one person pulling in a different direction from the School in general – and fancy her being rude to Matey, of all people! I think you should tell her to leave. It’s what Madge did with Miss Bubb, and with Matron Webb and Matron Besly; and it was for the best every time.”

That, Hilda reflected, was all very well for Joey to say. She wasn’t the one who’d have to try to find yet another replacement for Karen. Also, sending Elsie Bradshaw packing might not be all that easy, especially given the terms of that agreement that’d been signed. She decided that, for the time being, it would be best to wait and see what happened. Hopefully, once the new cook got used to life at Chalet School, she would settle down and accept the way that the School worked, and all the problems would resolve themselves.

#27:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:57 am
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Very nice.
The Chalet School above it all.
Give up your own good for that of the collective.
Is there a name for that?
Why should mistreated dommy staff, be expected to accept the ways of the school?
re the teachers, surely extra hours in the evening etc should be part of the terms of their employment. and as a result of the wages too.
In my daughters high school there are often evening activities that the staff must come to.

#28:  Author: Liseke PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:35 am
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Quote:
The Chalet School above it all.
Give up your own good for that of the collective.
Is there a name for that?


Keren - I was thinking along the lines of "Resistence is futile"



Thanks Alison, this is a great way to start my day in the office.

#29:  Author: jenniferLocation: Taiwan PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:39 am
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I think the expectation at the school has been that the school should be its staff's life - for both teaching and domestic staff. In a day school, there is an expectation that a staff member will spend some time on extracurricular activities - sports, clubs, etc, but there is some personal discretion in how much time they devote to it. They also don't have evening and weekend supervision duties. It's also not mandatory where I was educated - I went through several bouts of 'work to rule' job action - the teachers did their teaching, marking and preparation, but no extracurricular activities (sports teams, extra bands, clubs, student council etc).

In Prefects Miss Ferrars' activities are listed: teaching geography and math, teaching cricket two evenings a week and tennis on another, and prep duty on a fourth - so she had one evening a week and maybe one day of the weekend as personal time - the rest seems to be teaching, marking and preparing lessons and supervising, with occasional coffee/tea breaks.

Now if their contracts specify that they get, say, two evenings a week and one weekend day as free time, then it's legit, and they need to renegotiate if they want a better deal. If there is a general expectation that their free time belongs to the school, they can rebel.

#30:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:53 am
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I get the impression that the expectation is that the school should be like a family - why would you want/expect/need time off from the family? Particularly when the holidays provide it anyway.

#31:  Author: AllyLocation: John Bettany's Cabin! PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:15 am
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Oh yes, they can't possibly change because of an outsider! Rolling Eyes I wonder if they ever had the chance to listen to themselves, they would realise how they sounded.

I agree though that at a boarding school the staff do have to put in that extra time, but perhaps they should be starting to think about employing more purely pastoral care for the girls?

Thanks Alison

#32:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:12 pm
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I think that they'll find that Elsie has right on her side. Why should she not be given notice that picnic lunches are needed on the morrow. Surely everyone can see that some advance notice is needed if all those meat pies need to be made.

And Matey was behaving in a very overbearing way, treating Elsie as if she were an inferior. Matters such as that between Heads of Department are dealt with in private, not in front of the Staff of one of the departments.

#33:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:17 pm
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I think it does get very interesting towards the Late Swiss Period, when the school is so large, yet we STILL see classes cancelled so the girls can go on a ramble or down to Lake Thun or skiing. In the Tyrol days, the school seemed "family"-like enough that it was easy enough to change. Also, the surrounding conditions--both since it was a different location and an earlier time--seemed more primitive, so it did seem more necessary to take some of those days out-of-doors when it was possible to do so.

By the time the school is in Switzerland, however, it's grown so larger that the practice of just taking random days off has become unwieldy. In addition, they've introduced public exams, which they didn't have in Tyrol, so there are standards independent of the school that the girls will have to meet and prepare for. Also, although reportedly they are tied to the house in winter, they're rarely so geographically isolated (I think) as they were in Tyrol. I remember that in Tyrol, various modes of transportation--the ferry? the railway?--stop running when the tourist season is over. In Switzerland, the only time they're ever really *cut off* is during that flood, I think, when they have to eat lots of vegetables.

My point is that it seems like the practice of doing these unplanned rambles, trips to Thun, days skiing, etc., have really outlived their need and also outlived any point at which they were feasible. For me, the thought of rearranging lessons for the girls at a moment's notice would be a logistical nightmare. The thought of preparing five zillion meat pies in two hours sounds like something out of an I Love Lucy episode.

So. My question to Joey: has this system really worked for 22 years? It sounds like it's limping along at this point, really, with a lot of people making unnecessary and difficult sacrifices to ensure its success.


Chang

#34:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:57 pm
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I agree that Elsie should have been given more notice about the trips and the need for picnics; how can you be sure you have all that amount of extra ingredients? But I do think that at a boarding school there is the whole point that the girls are there 24/7 and so need to be cared for at odd times of the day and night. Perhaps Matey could claim to be having a night off next time someone sleepwalks or whatever. It is part of a teacher's responsibility to give extra time to things outside of their contractual commitment; don't doctors at the San do just that when they are on their day off and end up rescuing large parties of girls and ministering to them?!

#35:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 5:20 pm
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Thanks, Alison. It's very interesting to read everyone's comments. I'm afraid I can't think of anything to add!

#36:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:59 pm
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Hmmm, wonder if things are quite as rosy as Joey imagines? Also don't think they can get rid of Elsie - that contract works both ways!

Thanks Alison.

#37:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:07 am
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Thanks for the comments. I usually write about people I completely sympathise with, but I'm quite enjoying writing about someone "controversial" for a change Laughing !

“I’m very glad to be finished for the evening: it’s not half been busy in here today!” Rudi said, sitting down next to Karen. He was half-expecting a telling off for not having let her know that he was going to be finishing late – a problem with a mislaid key had ended up taking much longer to sort out than he’d expected, and he hadn’t realised what time it was – but she said nothing and just snuggled up to him. He put his arms round her. “Are you tired, my love? Please tell me that you haven’t been overdoing things. You promised you were going to start taking it easier until the baby’s born.”

“I don’t get chance to overdo things!” Karen retorted. “Everyone makes sure that I don’t lift anything heavy, and they’ve even started keeping asking me if I want to sit down! You wouldn’t have been telling people to keep an eye on me by any chance, would you?”

“I wouldn’t, as it so happens; but I’m very glad to hear that people are keeping an eye on you all the same, seeing as you tell me that I’m being overprotective if I keep coming to ask you if you’re all right!” He looked at her affectionately. “Everyone who works here thinks an awful lot of you, you know.”

“I think a lot of every one of them. And they all think an awful lot of you too.” It was true. There were disputes from time to time; but there was rarely anything that wasn’t speedily resolved and, more importantly, there were no marked divisions here in the way that there were at the Chalet School. “And I’m not tired. Just thinking that I’m very, very lucky to have you and to be here.”

“Oh, I think I’m the lucky one,” he said, stroking her hair. “What’s made you … ah, a letter from Anna.” He’d just noticed an envelope with a Swiss postmark on it lying on the table. “How is everything at the Gornetz Platz?”

“No better at Freudesheim, I’m afraid; and once the Maynards’ new baby’s born there’ll be even more work for Anna and Rosli to do. I don’t know what to suggest to help: I wish I did. Things seem to be getting better at the School, though.” She told him briefly everything that Anna had written about the latest goings on in the Chalet School’s domestic department.

“This latest new cook certainly seems to be shaking things up a bit,” she said. “She must have plenty of nerve: I’ll say that for nothing! So often when someone starts a new job they do everything that’s asked of them because they’re anxious to make a good impression, and then afterwards it can be very difficult to start saying no.”

She sighed. “Maybe in some ways both Anna and I made rods for our own backs in the early days, me at the School and Anna first at the School and then with the Maynards … but we were so glad just to have jobs, with things as they were; and we worked as hard as we could, partly out of gratitude, and partly because we were frightened that we might lose our jobs if we didn’t. The Chalet School doesn’t like people who don’t fit in with what it wants.” She paused for a moment, remembering, then snuggled closer to him and carried on speaking.

“Two Matrons got the sack whilst the School was at the Tiernsee. The first one admittedly treated one of the young pupils badly; but Miss Bettany, as she was then, had already decided to sack her – after deciding that it was her fault that some of the girls were speaking too loudly! Then the second one was told to go after being frightened during a thunderstorm! Admittedly neither of them were very nice people nor particularly good at their jobs, but basically they were both dismissed because they didn’t fit in with the School’s ways and demands; and it made those of us on the domestic staff feel very nervous. We felt that we had to be seen to be making the maximum amount of effort at all times, and we certainly wouldn’t have dared to refuse to do anything we were asked to. It’ll be very interesting to see what happens with this Mrs Bradshaw, who’s obviously got a very different outlook on things – but good luck to her!”

Madge's reasons for sacking people were definitely original Rolling Eyes Laughing !

#38:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:20 am
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How lovely to have a snapshot of Karen's life - and a thoughtful analysis of why the school originally developed the way it did.

I'm beginning to wonder if it wasn't partly rooted in the relationship between Madge and Joey. Madge could never treat the school as simply the school because her sister was there.

#39:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:37 am
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Thanks, Alison, it's lovely to see how happy Karen is now, and how thoughtful Rudi is. Wouldn't it be nice to see Anna so happily settled (hint hint)?

#40:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:43 am
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The discussions this drabble have provoked are certainly very interesting

#41:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:16 pm
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Great, Alison. I love the way that we can all see the problems with the outdated attitudes and discuss them. This is really thought - provoking.

#42:  Author: La Petite EmLocation: Cheltenham PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:55 pm
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Interesting as always Alison. Thanks! Very Happy

#43:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:33 pm
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Thanks Alison, it was great seeing an insight into Karen's new life and her opinions on the changes which Elsie has brought to the school. I'm really enjoying this Very Happy

Kathryn

#44:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:27 pm
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Go Elsie!

#45:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:40 pm
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Hmmm, I think it was more than just being frightened in the storm that got matron Besley the boot - but perhaps none of the domestic staff saw any of the other problems she had and caused.

Thanks Alison.

#46:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:11 pm
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Thanks, Alison. It's great to see more of Rudi and Karen - I always enjoy hearing their thoughts.

#47:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:49 pm
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In fairness to Madge, the matrons were sacked because they were uncaring and totally lacking in understanding, and were treating the girls badly and causing them distress. The storm episode with Matron Besley was the last straw because she put her own fear before the needs of the girls, who were also frightened, and needed her care and support.

Staff are certainly expected to adopt the school's ethos completely, but this is true in all books of that era. It's interesting that some questioning is allowed; Miss Slater leaves because she wants to do things differently and feels her ideas won't be acceptable. Granted, this is regarded with some disfavour, but her point of view is justified - when we hear of her years later she has done very well, is a Head, and has no hankering for the CS at all. A small incident, but significant.

#48:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:13 am
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To be fair to the CS in general, I suppose a lot of employers don't like it if people question the way things are done. My boss freely admits that several things that I've suggested would enable me to work more efficiently, but says that I have to keep doing things the way my predecessor (who's a lovely person but is 30 years older than me, isn't used to using computers, and therefore did things in ways that are now really rather outdated) did just because they don't like changing anything. Like hand-writing letters and getting someone else to type them, and then checking that they haven't misread my awful handwriting, even though I have Microsoft Word on my computer and always did all my own typing in my old job Rolling Eyes ! & expecting people to work late etc and put the job first certainly isn't unique to the CS either - my brother-in-law's boss rang him on his mobile on holiday last year and asked if he could come back early! Anyway, enough waffle!

“Well, I hope for her sake and the rest of the domestic staff’s that Mrs Bradshaw doesn’t meet the same fate as those two Matrons did,” Rudi said. “So many employers don’t like having staff who don’t share their views and don’t toe the line; and anyone standing up for employees’ rights can easily end up being labelled as a troublemaker and being dismissed. That’s certainly what happened to me when I was working in Wien before I went to America. Anyway, you were saying?”

“Well, after we left Austria, not that either of us regretted doing so, we were even more worried about what’d happen if we were to lose our jobs – could you imagine if either Anna or I had ended up having to look for employment in a country where we didn’t speak the language properly, and at a time when many people there were hostile towards Austrians? We were desperate to be seen to be doing a good job … and once people get it into their heads that you’ll do whatever they ask, they just expect more and more of you, and it’s very hard to change that. And I liked to feel that the School was my home, and Anna was and is even more emotionally involved with her job: she adores all the Maynard children –she’s like a second mother to them, after all - so she doesn’t like to refuse to help with them, and she’s fond of the Frau Doktor and the Herr Doktor as well.

“Oh well, you never know – maybe things will change at the School, and maybe then there’ll be changes at Freudesheim as well: Frau Doktor Maynard takes a very keen interest in what goes on at the School, after all. I’ve got a feeling that I may be being rather over-optimistic there, though.”

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Before long, Hilda, who’d been hoping that the situation would soon settle down, had a feeling that she’d been being rather over-optimistic. Everything seemed to be conspiring against relations between the domestic staff and the rest of the School “settling down” at all. On the Monday after she and Nell had paid their visit to Freudesheim, the Lower Fourth formers were caught in a sudden shower of rain whilst out for a walk. (Despite all the fuss that was made about ensuring that umbrellas weren’t left behind on trains and coaches, none of the girls seemed ever seemed to take them with them when they went out.)

When they got back to the School, rather wet, Matron insisted that they must all go to bed for the rest of the afternoon and that their damp uniforms must go in the wash. It was a Monday so most of their uniforms were clean on, having only just been washed and ironed. Matron, suspecting that the chances of some of the girls keeping both their remaining uniforms clean and tidy for the rest of the week were remote, summoned one of the laundry maids to collect the entire set, with instructions that they were to be washed and ironed again as soon as possible, preferably –she was still smarting over the incident with the sheets and was determined to make her authority felt – by the end of the following day. She also sent orders to the kitchen that mugs of hot milk were to be sent up at once, to all the different dormitories concerned, for the girls who’d been caught in the rain. She didn’t want to risk them all going down with colds.

#49:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:20 am
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Surely the damp uniforms need drying - not a complete wash...

#50:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:33 am
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Hmmm, cannot see Elsie accepting that - as ibarhis said - why not just dry them?

Thanks Alison.

#51:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:33 am
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But if they had two other sets of uniform, that gives the domestic staff two days to get the wet set sorted out! Oh, I am looking forward to seeing Elsie's reaction to this request!

Thanks Alison.

#52:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:34 am
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Thanks, Alison. I am also looking forward to seeing how Elsie reacts.

#53:  Author: Sarah_LLocation: Leeds PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:06 pm
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Elsie would have to do extra work even if it was only drying the uniforms, and the hot drinks seem a good idea. Whilst I agree it's excessive to wash the uniforms, I hope Elsie also recognises that some extra, unplanned work will always be necessary in a boarding school.

#54:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:29 pm
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Agreed, but washed uniforms presumably then need ironing whereas dried uniforms don't.

Gosh, I've just thought... Do they have washing machines in the 50s or is it all handwash. I'm sure it must still be mangles...

#55:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:41 pm
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Alison H wrote:
[color=red][i]To be fair to the CS in general, I suppose a lot of employers don't like it if people question the way things are done.


I was working over Easter, and tidied bits up, to a degree on autopilot, but also because I actually couldn't see the desk for all the paper, and I just couldn't work in it. My colleague and I tidied up a bit but the boss was not impressed. The thing is, just because she knows where everything is doesn't mean anyone else can find anything. All her knowledge is in her head, and the rest of us are screwed when she is off sick/on holiday/not available.

Am really enjoying this by the way!

#56:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:01 pm
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ibarhis wrote:
Agreed, but washed uniforms presumably then need ironing whereas dried uniforms don't.

Gosh, I've just thought... Do they have washing machines in the 50s or is it all handwash. I'm sure it must still be mangles...


I'm pretty sure it would still have been mangles in private homes, but they did have washing machines at the School by this time. In one of the Swiss books - could be Althea or possibly Summer Term - they talk about the possibility of having a rowing regatta at Lake Thun and say that they wouldn't be able to have the "tub races" like they did at St Briavel's unless they borrowed the tubs, because the School uses washing machines now.

(I did look into that for a reason, but it doesn't come up until later in the story!)

Must've taken absolutely ages doing all the washing in Armishire/St Briavel's when the School was bigger because there was only one branch of it, and they didn't have washing machines.

BTW, IIRC it also says in one of the Swiss books that Matey didn't like you changing your uniform more than once a week - forget exactly where it was but it was in the context of one of the Middles spilling paint down themselves or something. Or was it twice a week? Think it was once. Certainly no more than twice, anyway!


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#57:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:04 pm
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Yes but washing machines were twin tubs and usually still had mangles as well! My mother still had a mangle in the early 60s.

#58:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 3:27 pm
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Want to bet that Elsie wins this one as well?

#59:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 3:40 pm
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I am so pleased to see this has been updated.

My hope is that Elsie's battle with the working conditions and with the Heads and Matron does not mean that the girls, who seem to be more or less innocent bystanders, do not need to suffer. After all, in EBD's world, if you get caught in a shower, at least one person will get pneumonia or start sleepwalking, which will mean that she will need hot drinks. So, as ibarhis pointed out, there is some unplanned work involved in a boarding school. But some of the demands that Matron especially makes are ridiculous.

I wonder if she's ever had this kind of position and knows how much work is involved? I don't know how you get to become Matron, but I'd think you have at least some familiarity with washing/ironing/cooking etc., since you have to be nominally in charge of it.

Chang

ETA: Other thought--girls could iron uniforms themselves in Frau Mieders' class. Surely not all will be able to afford domestic help when they leave school; therefore, they should know how to iron. Witness the sad example of Chang, who must have been expecting domestic help, because she never did learn how to iron very well.

#60:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:19 pm
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My family were completely soaked through over the recent holidays (husband took them on a o trip to Jerusalem and left all the umbrellas in the car.
As a faithfu student of EBD I was sure they would get colds at least but nothing happened to them

#61:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 7:06 pm
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Changnoi wrote:
ETA: Other thought--girls could iron uniforms themselves in Frau Mieders' class. Surely not all will be able to afford domestic help when they leave school; therefore, they should know how to iron. Witness the sad example of Chang, who must have been expecting domestic help, because she never did learn how to iron very well.


Oh, so that's the reason - I obviously was also expecting a live-in helper then! Wink

#62:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:17 pm
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Alison, I cannot believe you have to handwrite your letters for someone else to type!!!! Shocked And we think the CS is outdated!

I'd never noticed that
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none of the girls seemed ever seemed to take them (umbrellas) with them when they went out
They didn't, did they!

I'm sure the girls wouldn't have changed their uniforms more than once a week unless they'd had a dire catastrophe with them, but I certainly don't see why they couldn't just be dried (I think they'd still need ironing, though - they wouldn't be non-crease, presumably). Could everyone have their hot milk in the Speisesaal before going to bed?

#63:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:54 am
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Er... guess who once burnt a hole in something with an iron in the school needlework room Embarassed !

Elsie was not at all pleased to hear that Matron had demanded that a set of uniforms that had been clean on and had suffered no worse damage than getting a little bit wet be washed and ironed again, and furious that to hear that Matron wanted this doing by the end of the following day. She didn’t see why the damp uniforms couldn’t just be hung up to dry.

She supposed that they could be washed and ironed again, but it certainly couldn’t be done so quickly. The Chalet School laundry was a busy place, working to a tight schedule; and different things were dealt with on different days. Neither today nor tomorrow were days for washing uniforms, and gentian blue tunics and skirts could hardly be put in the wash with light-coloured bedding or table linen. The Lower Fourths’ uniforms would just have to wait for a couple of days: it was hardly as if the girls didn’t have any clean clothes to put on in the meantime.

She was equally unimpressed with the edict about taking drinks to the dormitories. Whilst she could quite understand that the girls might be in need of a hot drink after getting caught in the rain, the Lower Fourth formers were scattered across numerous different dormitories and it would take quite a while to take drinks round to all of them, not to mention collecting the empty mugs afterwards. She and the rest of the kitchen staff were in the middle of the preparing the food for that evening’s Abendessen, and they had Kaffee and Kuchen to see to as well. Why on earth did the girls need to spend an afternoon in bed just because of a bit of rain, anyway? Could they not just come to the Speisesaal for their hot milk?

“How many different dormitories are involved?” she asked Judy Willoughby, who’d been sent to the kitchen with the message.

Judy was suddenly struck by a brilliant idea. She could see that Mrs Bradshaw wasn’t very happy with the idea of dispatching drinks to all the different dormitories, and neither she nor any of her friends were very happy about the idea of being cooped up in bed all afternoon when there was nothing wrong with them. It wasn’t even as if she’d be able to chat to Janice and Ailie: the three of them had never been allowed to be in the same dormitory.

“Would it be better to send the drinks to our common room, Mrs Bradshaw?” she suggested. “We’ll bring the mugs back when we’ve finished with them. Then we can go to our dormitories afterwards.” A long time afterwards, she thought with glee.

Unfortunately for Judy & co, it didn’t occur to any of them that Matron might be concerned about them and come to make sure that they were all all right. On finding that none of them were in their beds, she headed rapidly for their common room, where she found all the Lower Fourth formers – those who’d been doubtful about the plan had soon changed their minds when the others poured scorn on them – either playing with the various games that were kept in the cupboards there or trying to get round the room without touching the floor. A tray of empty mugs was sitting on the table. Judy and Janice had been about to take it back but had been distracted by Tessa de Bersac’s attempts to walk along the window sill without falling off, and the kitchen staff hadn’t time to wonder why it was taking them so long to finish their drinks.

Matron was fuming. Whatever Judy had said, she maintained, the kitchen staff should have obeyed her orders and taken the drinks to the dormitories: surely one of the maids who’d been in the sitting room on their breaks could have been asked to deal with it so that the preparations for Abendessen need not be interrupted. She was even angrier when the uniforms weren’t returned by the end of the day after, and she stormed into the kitchen where she pointed out to Elsie Bradshaw in no uncertain terms that she, as Head Matron, was in charge of health and housekeeping at the School; and that it wasn’t for the cook to undermine her authority and disobey her instructions.

Elsie was so angry at being spoken to in that way that, instead of stating her own case clearly and calmly, she simply ordered Matron out of the kitchen. Realising that Elsie wasn’t going to pay any heed to anything she said, Matron left. Enough was enough, she decided. This state of affairs couldn’t be allowed to continue. She was going to have to speak to Hilda Annersley about it.

#64:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:14 am
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Oh, ructions! I'm with Elsie here - Matron had no right storming into the kitchen to reprimand Elsie in front of her staff. Also why should the maids on their break have to interrupt it. At the same time matey's actions are because she cares about the health of the girls.

Hope Hilda's legendary calm and fairness ccan sort this out!

Thanks Alison. Laughing

#65:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:51 am
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Oooh a battle!
This could be good.
Thanks Alison Very Happy

#66:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:57 am
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Thanks, Alison. I wonder how Hilda will react.

#67:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 1:06 pm
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The uniforms could just be dried out and pressed.

Strong women, not spineless jellyfish, so the girls aren't going to dissolve from a shower of rain.

I support Elsie in this, Matey is being absolutely pig-headed about the situation.

And Elsie is right to see that her staff get decent breaks.

ETA: I still want Elsie to meet Anna and encourage her to stand up for herself.

#68:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:43 pm
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Yay for Elsie! I do think that Matey is a bit thoughtless about the kitchen staff's time, but then so are the rest of the school. I also hope that Elsie manages to 'infect' Anna with some of her ideas (and then that we get to see Anna and Jo discussing them!).

Thanks, Alison.

#69:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:55 pm
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The problem is that no-one on the academic staff has ever had to cope with their own washing and ironing, and most of the girls come from families where servants are employed, so they don't realise how much work they're causing.

Matey is behaving indefensibly, the girls have clean, dry clothes to change into, so organising the work is up to Elsie.

Aren't we told somewhere that Matey allowed only two clean summer dresses in the week?

#70:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:57 pm
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Well, it seems like Matron is making a tiny bit of progress. She used to think that the kitchen staff could miraculously be in five places at once. Now she understands that they do have pressing tasks at hand--preparing Abendessen--and is attempting to "solve" the problem by having other staff members interrupt their breaks. So...maybe it's some progress towards seeing kitchen staff as human? She doesn't see that they have rights yet, but at least she doesn't think they have superpowers.

I'm glad that the girls are vaguely on Elsie's side, although not for Elsie's reasons. They just don't want to be treated like spineless jellyfish.


Chang

#71:  Author: Sarah_LLocation: Leeds PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:36 pm
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I think Miss Annersely needs to sort out a clear responsibility/power structure. Matron seems to think of herself as Elsie's boss, which is causing some of the misunderstandings.

#72:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:48 pm
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Sounds to me like a classic case of bad HR practice - Mrs Bradshaw believes herself to be in charge yet here is Matron Lloyd believing the same thing.

Hmm, HR... now just who would be in charge of that?

#73:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:38 pm
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Well well well....who's head of which department?

Should be an interesting battle!

Thanks Alison

#74:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:31 am
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Yes, they need to get their lines of responsibility sorted out.

Poor Hilda, I don't envy her having to deal with this one.

#75:  Author: JustJenLocation: sitting on the steps PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:51 am
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breaks out the popcorn and settles down to watch <b>the fight!</b>

#76:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:46 am
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Hilda tried to deal with the situation as fairly as possible. Matron was the person primarily responsible for the girls’ health, and sending girls who’d been caught in bad weather straight to bed was, whilst it admittedly might seem a little extreme to some people, the School’s usual policy. However, she could understand that taking mugs of milk to all the dormitories would have been time-consuming, and Judy Willoughby had admitted that she’d given Mrs Bradshaw the clear impression that the girls would go to bed as soon as they’d finished their drinks.

She could also see why washing and ironing the uniforms – which she privately thought rather unnecessary anyway – on either of those particular days wouldn’t have been convenient. Matron wouldn’t have known that, though – but then it wasn’t as if any of the girls had been without a clean uniform at any time. However, it was accepted at the School that Matron, like the teaching staff and Rosalie Dene, was in a senior position to the domestic staff; and she could understand Matron’s concerns about having her authority undermined.

She gave Judy a thorough ticking off and the entire Lower Fourth a long poem to learn. Then she told Matron that, although her orders should have been obeyed, it would be preferable if she would try to avoid having any more public confrontations with Mrs Bradshaw; and that it might be better if she didn’t in future make stringent demands, such as that about washing the uniforms within a day and a half, unless they were essential. Matron supposed that she’d have to be satisfied with that.

Finally, she told Elsie that, whilst she’d asked Matron to try to be a little less demanding in future, Matron’s instructions were to be obeyed unless there were very cogent reasons why they shouldn’t be; and pointed out that it would have been more sensible to have explained the position regarding the washing from the start. In an attempt to pour oil on troubled waters, she added that all the domestic staff could take the day off that coming Saturday. The Tennis Six had an away match against an international school in Lausanne, and several of the mistresses and almost all of the other girls were going with them to watch.

It was over a hundred miles away and so they would be gone all day: they’d be leaving early and stopping for breakfast on the way there, the Lausanne school had promised to provide a large lunch for them all, and they wouldn’t be back until late and would stop for something to eat on the return journey. Those few girls who for one reason or another weren’t going could go over to St Mildred’s for the day.

Elsie had mixed feelings about what Hilda had said. She resented Matron’s having addressed her as an inferior and the way in which it seemed that the domestic department was the only one that was expected to take instructions from people, other than the Head, who weren’t genuinely part of it. On the other hand, she appreciated the fact that at least her comments about recent events had been taken notice of and acted upon, and that, she hoped, Matron had been made to realise that her behaviour hadn’t been acceptable.

As for the proposed day off, she might have interpreted it as an attempt to bribe the domestic staff into submission and said as much; but she could see that Miss Annersley genuinely meant well and she didn’t want to deprive the rest of the domestic staff of a day’s holiday – they deserved it, after all! – so she simply thanked the Headmistress as graciously as possible. The rest of the domestic staff were pleased by the news and they all immediately began planning what they were going to do on Saturday.

#77:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:09 am
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Oh, this is getting interesting!!

I look forward to seeing what will be happening next. Hopefully Hilda is starting to realise that maybe things do need to change in the domestic section of the school?

#78:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:13 am
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mm... no real clarification there but no-one can be said to have been treated unfairly...

but still, we haven't seen Mrs Bradshaw and Jo yet!

#79:  Author: alicatLocation: Wiltshire PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:04 am
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am waiting eagerly for the thunderstorm on Saturday which cancels the tennis outing...when all the domestic staff are not in school...will Frau Mieders turn to and make Abendessen???

#80:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:08 am
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Thanks Alison - lots of updates to read. Am rather agreeing with alicat - something is going to go wrong.

#81:  Author: ElleLocation: Peterborough PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:44 am
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ibarhis wrote:


but still, we haven't seen Mrs Bradshaw and Jo yet!



Ohh... I hope we get to see that!

Thanks for the updates.

#82:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:16 pm
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Yes, longing for the conflict between Jo and Elsie.

#83:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:12 pm
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Well, as Elsie now has a day off, she could spend it at Freudesheim, getting to know Jo better!

I do agree that Miss Annersley genuinely means well, and so does Matey, I think, but hopefully they will soon learn more than just meaning well!

Thanks, Alison, this is brilliant.

#84:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:04 pm
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Thanks Alison, it's really nice to see how things are progressing. I am eagerly anticipating the clash with Jo too...

Kathryn

#85:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:12 pm
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Hmmm, cannot see Elsie accepting a subordinate position to Matron! Definitely feel that Saturday is going to go wrong.

Thanks Alison.

#86:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:17 pm
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Somethings got to go wrong on Saturday Twisted Evil It wouldn't be the CS if it didn't.

Thanks Alison

#87:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:08 pm
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Or Jo will need to borrow one of the maids to do something...doesn't that happen sometimes, where Jo just borrows one of the CS staff?

Chang

#88:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:51 pm
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Jo trying to 'borrow' Mrs Bradshaw anyone?

#89:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:54 am
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Thanks for the comments Very Happy !

All the girls were eagerly looking forward to the match. Before moving to Switzerland they’d regularly played competitive matches against other schools, but since the move Peggy Burnett, the Games Mistress, had found it difficult to find opponents for them; and matches in which their own girls just played against each other weren’t quite the same. They’d been assured that the girls from the Lausanne school were looking forward to the match just as much as they were.

On the day before the match was due to take place, Miss Turner, the games mistress of the Lausanne school, rang Peggy, full of apologies, to say that a pipe had burst outside the school and flooded the tennis courts. The Chalet School girls would still be very welcome to come for the day - there were plenty of things to see and do in Lausanne - but the tennis was definitely off: the courts were unplayable. Maybe they’d be able to rearrange the fixture, but with half term and then exams coming up they’d be looking at dates much later in the term. All her girls were very disappointed that the match had had to be cancelled, and she was sure that Miss Burnett’s girls would be too and she was really very sorry about it; but unfortunately it just couldn’t be helped.

Peggy, knowing how much the girls from both schools had been looking forward to the match, immediately suggested that they play at the Chalet School instead and, eager to reciprocate the hospitality offered by their opponents, added that the visiting team would of course be welcome to bring as many other girls along with them as supporters as they liked. The Chalet School girls would be only too pleased to be their hostesses for the day, and of course lunch would be provided. Miss Turner was delighted and thanked Peggy effusively. She would make the arrangements at once, she said. The weather forecast for Saturday was good, and she envisaged that a large number of girls would want to accompany their team to the Gornetz Platz.

They’d need plenty of sandwiches and cakes, Peggy mused. Cold meats and salads too, some fruit with plenty of whipped cream, maybe fruit jelly as well, ice cream as the forecast was for warm weather; and of course plenty of homemade fruit juice and iced lemonade, and coffee for those who preferred hot drinks. Also, she’d need Gaudenz and his assistants to put plenty of chairs outside for people to sit on, as they couldn’t all crowd round the tennis courts the whole time.

It wasn’t until ten minutes later, when she was informing Hilary Bennet, the Games Prefect, of the change of arrangements, that she remembered Hilda saying that she’d told the domestic staff that, as the School would be virtually empty almost all day and the girls wouldn’t need any meals providing, they could all take Saturday off. In her anxiety to prevent the pupils of both schools from being disappointed, she’d forgotten all about it.

#90:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:09 am
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Oh, such a precipitous cliff....

#91:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:39 am
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Oh dear. Is Elsie going to stand firm and take the day off, or is she going to realise that it was a mistake and help out?

#92:  Author: pimLocation: Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:19 am
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*ulp*

*waits for the fireworks*

Thanks, Alison.

#93:  Author: alicatLocation: Wiltshire PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:31 am
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well of course once Jo has offered Anna's services as temporary head cook, plus Freudesheim's beautiful gardens for a picnic for the visitors Rolling Eyes Shocked there won't be a problem, will there? Laughing Laughing

#94:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:59 am
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Oh, I look forward to seeing what happens next! I don't think that Elsie will be at all pleased if there is a sudden change in arrangments.

I was also amused at the wonderful list of things that was going to be prepared for lunch.

Shocked

#95:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:39 am
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And never mind whether the school kitchen has them in stock!

ETA: Perhaps the V1 form and Frau Mieders could do the work?

#96:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:21 pm
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Oh dear! So now we have a problem to solve! I think this could be an interesting dilemma for Elsie and her staff. Thanks, Alison, I'm really looking forward to see how they resolve this one!

#97:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:21 pm
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Hehe I bet Peggy gets into trouble with Hilda!

#98:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:23 pm
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Peggy was certainly somewhat rash in making the offer without checking first.

#99:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:24 pm
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Uh-oh...silly Peggy. That was not a very clever thing to arrange. Very much looking forward to seeing how this all pans out...

Thanks Alison!

Kathryn

#100:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:26 pm
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I don't know. Although I understand that Peggy had the girls' feelings in mind and not her own convenience, the offer that she made was rooted in the attitude that, I think, more than anything, is what Elsie is trying to stamp out: the idea that the kitchen staff are a set of robots who will be there to produce cold meat and salads and fruit on demand no matter what the conditions without being asked beforehand.

I remember being scolded as a child (age 6 or 7) for volunteering the services of my parents to drive one of my friends somewhere. Part of me thought, my parents like my friends and understand that my friends need to get home; they'll be happy to drive them home. This was true. But the other part of me thought, of course my parents can do this! After all, they don't have anything else that they would be doing; they just sort of fade into the woodwork when I'm not interacting with them.

I think this is Peggy's attitude.


Still love the story!
Chang

#101:  Author: Ruth BLocation: Oxford, UK PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:31 pm
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He He!

Such a CS thing to do! But in this universe I fear all will not go according to plan!

#102:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:37 pm
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People do sometimes assume that staff will be available whenever it suits them ... my ex-manager once arranged for me and a colleague to do a job which meant staying away overnight for 3 days without checking first if those dates were OK with us. Much to the amusement of the rest of the office (the colleague was a bloke), one of the nights was February 14th Laughing .

#103:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:40 pm
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I think Chang has hit it on the head - while Peggy did just forget about the arrangements it was because, in the past, the Domestic Staff were there to do whatever was required of them. I'll be interested in both how Hilda reacts and how Elsie reacts to this.

Thanks Alison.

#104:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:23 pm
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alicat wrote:
am waiting eagerly for the thunderstorm on Saturday which cancels the tennis outing...when all the domestic staff are not in school...will Frau Mieders turn to and make Abendessen???

So many things that can happen
*rubs hands in anticipation*

Thank you Alison

#105:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:37 am
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Oh my goodness, here's a nice mess. Silly Peggy. Where does she think all that can be magicked from overnight? It's one thing for children to be convinced that the staff live in cupboards and are wound up each morning, but one would hope that maturity would have brought a little more sense.

Can't wait to see what happens.

#106:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:53 am
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“It just went clean out of my mind,” she admitted to Hilary. “Well, I can hardly ring Miss Turner and withdraw an invitation that I’ve only just issued: it’d look extremely rude. Even if I did, I could hardly ask if we could all go there for the day after all, so meals would be needed as normal here anyway. I’m just going to have to go and explain to Mrs Bradshaw what’s happened. I don’t suppose the domestic staff’ll be very pleased, but it’s a case of either disappointing a small group of people who’ll hopefully be able to have their day off later in the term- if the away match can be rearranged - or else disappointing the whole of two schools and getting us a reputation for bad manners with the people in Lausanne.”

Elsie had already bought her train ticket for her eagerly anticipated visit to Geneva, and Gaudenz and Lisa were amongst several people planning to spend the day in Interlaken. Most of the younger members of the domestic staff were intending either to visit friends or family who lived nearby or just to spend the day relaxing in the grounds or around the Gornetz Platz. When Peggy and Hilary arrived in the kitchen to inform them apologetically that their day off was going to have to be cancelled, there was widespread dismay.

However, Elsie soon made it clear that a day off they’d been promised and a day off they were going to have. “A lot of us have already either spent good money on train tickets or else made arrangements which affect other people,” she pointed out. “I’m sorry, but it’s not our fault that you decided not to go to Lausanne and to invite a load of people over here. Miss Annersley did promise us a day off.”

Elsie refused to budge on the subject, and Hilda, when she was consulted, was loath to go back on her word and give Elsie’s department any more reason to feel that they and the rest of the staff were on opposite sides. All she could think of to do was to suggest to Peggy and Hilary that they ask if any of those of the maids and Gaudenz’s assistants who had no definite plans might be willing to help out, and see if anyone could come up with any other ideas in the meantime.

“It’s an absolute sickener,” Hilary said gloomily to the rest of the prefects. “We get so few chances to play against other schools, and then when we do all this has to happen! Most of the food’ll want making fresh tomorrow, and I can’t even suggest that some of us help because it’ll look pretty rude if Seniors who aren’t playing are hiding out in the kitchen; and I suppose we could ask Frau Mieders to help but she wouldn’t be able do it all by herself. Any bright ideas, anyone?”

They all thought for a few minutes, then the Head Girl gave a yell and jumped up. “Got it!” she said exultantly. “Whom do we always turn to when we’ve got a problem? Auntie Joey, of course! It might put her out a bit but I’m sure she won’t mind when it’s to help the School out – we’ll ask her to let us borrow Anna! She could make a start on things like the cakes today - Auntie Joey’ll have plenty of flour and butter and so on - and no-one’ll mind her using the School kitchen tomorrow. There’ll be stuff in the kitchen cupboards here, and if we tell her now she’ll have time to get any fresh stuff she needs. She’ll put on a wonderful spread for us! And I’m sure we’ll be able to persuade some of the domestic staff to help out if they’re not going anywhere in particular anyway.”

“Mary-Lou, I have to admit it – you’re a genius!” Hilary declared joyfully. “Trust you to come up with the answer! Well, everyone, it looks as if the tennis match’ll be on after all!"

#107:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:29 am
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Anna's going to do it all on her own, is she? Rolling Eyes

Thanks, Alison. *pokes Mary-Lou* (what happened to the poking smiley?)

#108:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:33 am
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I wondered if this would be the way that they would solve it. I am very interested to see how Joey handles this situation, given her previous comments about Elsie.

Looking forward to the next instalment!!

Laughing

#109:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:35 am
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I'm sorry, was Mary Lou suggesting that, rather than have an entire Kitchen full of Staff, that Anna would manage with a couple of maids (if she's lucky) in between all the work she has to do for Joey? And when does Anna have any time off?

Really pleased that Hilda didn't go back on her word. Looking forward to stirrings of rebellion from Anna.

Thanks Alison.

#110:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:29 am
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aha, but Joey has not yet promised Anna regular time off!
Also Anna has not been feeling well. Even if she complains Joey will say that we cannot let the school down.

#111:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:33 am
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Good old Mary-Lou...hehehe.

Thanks Alison Very Happy

Kathryn

#112:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:53 am
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I am soo looking forward to the first encounter between Jo and Mrs Bradshaw!

#113:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:26 pm
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Well, Elsie won that round, but what comes next?

#114:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:16 pm
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Yes, Mary-Lou, you're an absolute genius! Get Anna to cook for one hundred fifty people (assuming it's Seniors--~100 people--and mistresses and guests--~50 people).

She won't mind! After all, she's used to cooking for g-d-knows-how-many at Freudesheim.

I was so HOPEFUL that after Ailie et al's mini-rebellion against Matron, the girls would be more insightful into the needs of the staff. Alas, it does not appear to be the case.


Chang

#115:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:25 pm
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So now Mary Lou is doing it.... Committing other people to doing things without thinking of the consequences, I mean. Ah well!

#116:  Author: ElleLocation: Peterborough PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:48 pm
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ibarhis wrote:
So now Mary Lou is doing it.... Committing other people to doing things without thinking of the consequences, I mean. Ah well!


"That's just Mary-Lou" surely?

#117:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:52 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I wonder how Anna is going to react to this.

For a couple of years, I helped wash cups at a church fireworks party near the time of Bonfire Night. I didn't have to pay the entrance fee, but I spent the whole evening washing paper cups so they could keep on being used. I kept on getting volunteered, and I couldn't find a way out of it. The 3rd year wasn't so bad as a friend helped me and I got to see some of the fireworks.

On the 4th year, the lady also helping in the kitchen said was I able to help out again that year. I said I thought I was away that weekend, hoping that I would be away. The subject wasn't mentioned for a few weeks.

When the time came, the lady said, 'You said you would help at the fireworks party, didn't you?' I said that I was actually going away that weekend.

#118:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:54 pm
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All my sympathies are with Anna (and Elsie) at the moment, I can't imagine Peggy would like it much if she was given extra work...

Thanks Alison

#119:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:02 pm
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Oh, super Anna to the rescue! What a splendid idea! Now I long even more fervently for Anna and Elsie to meet and have a little chat! Thanks, Alison.

#120:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:59 pm
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Oh nice one, Mary-Lou!!!!!!!

Thanks Alison

#121:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:04 am
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It's all right, she can make a start on the cakes today, no problem! What happens when she collapses in a crumpled heap?

#122:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:47 am
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Thanks for the comments. Elsie will be visiting Freudesheim very soon Wink .

Elsie left for Geneva very early on Saturday morning. As no more had been said to her on the subject, she assumed - insofar as she thought about it at all - that the tennis match had been postponed and that either the trip to Lausanne was going ahead after all or else that some alternative all-day expedition had been arranged for the Chalet School girls. She was not at all pleased, when she returned to the School, to find that all sorts of ingredients earmarked for use on Sunday and Monday had been used up; and she and most other members of the domestic staff were absolutely furious to learn that some of their younger colleagues had been pressurised into giving up their day off and working instead.

Mary-Lou wasn’t the sort of person who would ever consciously have bullied anybody; but she did have a rather forceful manner, especially when she was convinced that she had right on her side. It had seemed to her that, as Peggy had said to Hilary, cancelling the match would both have damaged the School’s reputation and caused a great deal of disappointment to a lot of people; and that, set against that, it was little enough to ask that people who’d made no specific plans for the day anyway give up their time to help out.

Accustomed to being expected to obey orders and aware that the Head Girl and the prefects were regarded as having considerable authority in the School, a number of the maids, most of them only the same age or very little older than Mary-Lou and Hilary, had felt that they’d had little choice but to agree. They’d said nothing to Elsie before she went, realising that she’d be angry and not wanting to be caught in the middle of an argument.

Elsie immediately told those who’d worked on the previous day that they could take next Saturday off to make up for it, and went to inform Hilda that they‘d be absent from work on that day. Hilda, whilst she understood why Elsie had acted as she had done, felt obliged to say that that wasn’t acceptable. No-one had actually forced anyone to work the day before, after all; and mistresses often helped with school activities in their free time without expecting time off in lieu. Moreover, only she and Nell Wilson had the authority to grant extra days off, and she couldn’t be seen to be allowing other people to do so at will.

Feelings amongst the domestic staff over the whole affair were running high, and several members of the kitchen staff were venting their anger about recent events when Norah Fitzgerald arrived in the kitchen to ask for cloths to mop up some paint that she’d spilt in the art room. Norah, who’d recently been fined by Hilary for using English on a German day, lost no time in announcing to the rest of her form that Mary-Lou Trelawney and Hilary Bennet, with Miss Burnett’s approval, had bullied some of the maids into working when they were supposed to have been on holiday. The tale soon went round the rest of the girls, being elaborated upon along the way.

Almost all of the older girls and most of the younger girls accepted that much of what was being said had been wildly exaggerated, but the fact that the rumours were circulating at all made the matter a widespread topic of conversation. Opinion was split. There were those who supported Peggy, Mary-Lou and Hilary, saying that they’d only done what they’d thought was best for the School. Some of them said that those who’d given up their day off had been free to refuse to do so, and others said that all the domestic staff should have either agreed or been told that they had to work that day. Then there were those felt that what had taken place had been wrong and unfair, to Anna as well as those maids involved; some of them going so far as to say that they were quite disgusted by it.

There were several heated arguments about the issue, and a tense atmosphere pervaded most forms as a result. It was the first time that most of the girls had given the domestic staff’s working conditions any real thought at all, and it was certainly the first time that the School’s attitudes towards the domestic staff had been the subject of anything like so much discussion amongst its pupils.

#123:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:53 am
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Well, it was always said that the CS should provide a rounded education!

#124:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:58 am
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Hmmm, think Hilda was wrong to insist that the staff not have the following Saturday off. It would have shown she had some sympathy for them. The situation is rapidly racing out of control - I wonder if anyone has ever considered what would happen if the domestic staff just downed tools?

Thanks Alison.

#125:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:01 am
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I suspect that Hilda is trying to retain or even retrieve control... I mean who would expect a member of the domestic staff to behave with a degree of self determination worthy of Jo or Mary-Lou? Very Happy

#126:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:26 am
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Ah. Someone is finally seeing Mary-Lou for what she is. Am interested to see how this develops!

#127:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:34 am
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Just another little thought - would really like to see Elsie and Mary Lou meet up!

Mary Lou is one of those people that, whilst they don't feel they are bullying, is in fact doing just that - should like to see her try that on Elsie - among other things, her being known as Mrs bradshaw might impress on Mary Lou that Elsie has authority.

#128:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:55 am
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Glad the pupils are starting to think about it. Thanks Alison.

#129:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:01 pm
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Much to consider in this, thanks, Alison.

#130:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:18 pm
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can we see what Anna thought of cooking for them?

#131:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:10 pm
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Thank Alison, it's really interesting to see the affect of the domestic disputes on the girls and it's really good that they are starting to think about these things.

Thanks Alison, this is not only really well written but is really interesting too!

Kathryn

#132:  Author: LyanneLocation: Ipswich, England PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:33 pm
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Quote:
only she and Nell Wilson had the authority to grant extra days off, and she couldn’t be seen to be allowing other people to do so at will
No, but she should have pre-empted it by telling Elsie that those maids should have the next Saturday off.

#133:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:01 pm
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Strike!

That's what they need to do...

Thanks Alison

#134:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:49 am
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Opinion in the staff room was also divided on the matter, along similar lines. It was clear that the domestic staff felt strongly about it; and those of the “upstairs” staff who sympathised with them said privately to each other that Peggy should have stopped to think before inviting a large group of visitors over for the day, even if she hadn’t forgotten about the promised day off.

Some of them were also of the opinion that Mary-Lou and Hilary should have been reprimanded for their overbearing manner towards the maids, and that Hilda should have given those affected next Saturday off herself. There were also a few murmurings about some people seeming to think that the School paying someone a salary meant that it owned them body and soul and was entitled to first call on every bit of time that they had. However, they felt that they ought to show a united front, and so none of them made their feelings known in public; which rather made it look as if none of them felt that what had happened had been in any way wrong.

There’d always been a divide between the “upstairs” staff and the “downstairs” staff, but there’d never been any obvious antagonism between the two groups before. Now, the cumulative effect of everything that had happened this term – the dispute between Elsie and Matron over the ironing, the changes Elsie had made to the domestic staff’s working practices and their effect on the rest of the School, the incident with the Lower Fourths and now the affair of the tennis match – changed that. If any mistress ventured to the kitchen or the laundry room, they found that everyone there fell silent as soon as they arrived. It was the same if one of the maids brought a message or a plate of cakes to the staff room.

The atmosphere in the School, one way and another, had very rarely been this bad before. Nor was the dispute confined to the School itself. Elsie had met Rosli but she hadn’t yet met Anna, nor had she met Joey who hadn’t been over to the School as often as usual this term due to being “busy”. However, on learning that the woman who worked for the Maynards had been in her kitchen on Saturday, making herself at home, taking charge of events and using up her ingredients, she stormed off to Freudesheim to make her feelings known. What she found wasn’t quite what she’d been expecting.

Rosli answered the door. “Oh - Mrs Bradshaw!” she said, wondering what the reason for the visit was. Karen had quite often popped in with portions of raspberry fluff or other treats - admittedly usually as a pretext for a gossip with Anna - but the latest school cook had never been round to Freudesheim before. “Come in. Is there something you’d like to borrow?”

“No, there is not,” Elsie said shortly. She forced herself to be civil: all this was hardly Rosli’s fault. “It’s nice to see you, Rosli. Is the woman who works with you here? Anna Pfeifen, isn’t it?”

“She’s not, I’m afraid,” Rosli said, wondering why Mrs Bradshaw seemed to be in such a bad mood. “She’s taken our four little ones out for a walk. Can I give her a message?”

At that moment, a large and obviously very badly-trained dog came hurtling into the hallway, nearly knocking Elsie over. Behind him came a woman clad in a lime-green smock, her hair arranged on either side of her head in a style that wouldn’t have flattered anyone. “Bruno! You bad dog! Honestly, the minute he hears voices in the hall, he’s up and away! I’m Frau Doktor Maynard, the mistress of the house. And you are …?”

#135:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:19 am
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Alison, how could you leave it there? This is cruelty to us poor creatures who are eagerly awaiting this meeting!

Thanks, this is fabulous!

#136:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:22 am
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Alison you must write/post the next bit! I sooooo want to see this meeting! Laughing

Think the description of the antagonism very realistic between stff upstairs/downstairs - in a way a pity that the teaching staff cannot show they have some sympathy for the domestic staff position.

(And Mary Lou and Hilary should have been reprimanded)

Thank you.

#137:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:30 am
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That is just evil... Smile

#138:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:03 am
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Alison! Come back and give as the next update!

#139:  Author: pimLocation: Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:11 am
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*sits down with the popcorn to wait for the fireworks*

Thank you Alison.

#140:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:13 am
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*nearly falls over the cliff*

Please post some more!

#141:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:56 am
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Alison, come back!!
Pretty please?

#142:  Author: alicatLocation: Wiltshire PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:41 am
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Help! is wearing a smock part of being 'busy' because I have just bought a really pretty smock-type summer top and do not want anyone to get the wrong idea..... Embarassed

#143:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:54 am
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Thanks, Alison. Is the start of the hoped-for fireworks?

#144:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:16 pm
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Alison, as you are on-line at the moment,and you are currently bored - could we prevail on you for further episodes of this?

Thank you. Laughing

#145:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:19 pm
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Sadly it's on my home computer and I'm (no wonder my "tag" is saying "Bored!") at work Sad !

#146:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:23 pm
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Well that's sad, isn't it? I'll just have to go and write more of Trust now! Laughing

BTW - invest in a memory stick - very easy way of transporting story with you!

#147:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:13 pm
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I am going to be out of the house and will not have any internet access this weekend. Is leaving me to hover on this cliff during my mini-vacation a nice thing to do? Because I don't entirely think that it is.

I hope that Elsie and Anna are able to establish a good relationship eventually, even despite the initial misunderstanding and despite Joey and her lime-green-ness.

Chang

#148:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:46 pm
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Thanks Alison! Loving this so much Very Happy

#149:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:39 pm
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Sigh...how can you leave us there Alison, especially after you've built it up so nicely!

Thank you Very Happy

Kathryn

#150:  Author: La Petite EmLocation: Cheltenham PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:02 pm
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What is going to happen next? - the question on everyone's lips.
Thanks Alison Very Happy

#151:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:10 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I hope that Elsie will be able to stand up to Joey.

#152:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:43 pm
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Alison ... please have mercy!

#153:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:00 pm
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Alison- you home yet? Very Happy
Love this by the way
*does crawling work? Wink *

#154:  Author: AliceLocation: London, England PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:11 pm
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I couldn't remember whether I'd read today's post or not. I was disappointed to realise that I had (enthralled though I was...)!

#155:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:28 pm
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Such a lot of interesting and thought-provoking stuff in this, Alison.

Many years ago, I wrote a story about the kitchen staff going on strike - the teaching staff had to take over ... appealing thought!

Also looking forward to the Joey/Elsie conversation. Shocked

#156:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 7:49 am
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Thanks for the comments. Here's the next bit. (The comment Joey makes about Karen is based on something that she actually says to Hilda in one of the later Swiss books.)

“This is Mrs Bradshaw, the new School cook,” Rosli explained. “She’s come to see Anna.”

“Oh,” Joey said, dropping into English. “Er … how do you do? I assume that you’ve come to thank her for stepping into the breach on Saturday.” She eyed Elsie disapprovingly. What the Chalet School required was a cook who was conscientious and hard-working, not someone who went off gallivanting when she was needed and seemed to cause no end of other trouble besides.

“Of course,” she added, “when our one and only Mary-Lou came over to ask me if she could borrow Anna for the day I said yes immediately. I would never think twice about suffering a bit of personal inconvenience when it was for the good of the School. That’s how we do things at the Chalet School, Mrs Bradshaw – and I’m still a Chalet School girl even if I am the proud mamma of nine, soon to be ten or hopefully eleven. Lady Russell is my elder sister and I was the School’s first ever pupil, you know. Well, of course, you must know.

“Anyhow, I’m sure you’ve been made aware that my Anna did you proud on Saturday. She’s an excellent cook, even if I do say so myself. Her pastries aren’t quite as good as Karen’s – I used to keep telling Miss Annersley that I was going to steal Karen from her one of these days, but then dear old Herr Braun’s son got there first – but otherwise I can’t fault her. She understands about loyalty, of course. She’s been with me since almost ever since I got married – she made her way out of occupied Austria and all the way to England so that she could work for me, and she’s been my faithful handmaiden ever since. She’s out with my four youngest children at the moment, but when they get back I shall certainly tell her that you called round to thank us.”

She looked at Elsie’s empty hands and was singularly unimpressed. Wouldn’t you have thought that she could have brought a basket of cakes or something similar with her by way of a thank you gift for everyone at Freudesheim? No wonder the triplets didn’t seem to think very much of her. Good manners cost nothing, when all was said and done.

Elsie was beginning to realise that she’d got the wrong end of the stick. She wasn’t forming an overly favourable impression of the unknown Anna, who seemed to let this self-satisfied woman walk all over her; but it was quite obvious that Anna had only been obeying instructions when she’d come over to spend the day working in the School kitchen.

She’d actually half-forgotten the original reason for her visit in her anger at the way in which Frau Doktor Maynard was speaking. “Borrow Anna for the day.” “Steal Karen from her.” “Even if I do say so myself.” “My faithful handmaiden.” Just who the hell did she think she was?

#157:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:01 am
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You seem to be toying with us, Alison! What will Elsie say to all this? I'm so eager to find out!

Thank you. Very Happy

#158:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:19 am
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I can't wait to see the next part of this!! (Hint, hint!)

Laughing

#159:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:46 am
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Alison, I presume you're at home today, so can we have another update later?

*hopeful*

Thank you!

#160:  Author: Sarah_LLocation: Leeds PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 1:14 pm
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I have a feeling that Elsie's response will not be the response Joey is expecting.

#161:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 2:21 pm
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Alison, please don't leave it there, come back and post some more.

#162:  Author: JustJenLocation: sitting on the steps PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 2:35 pm
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wow, isn't Joey just a real b*tch?

#163:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 3:10 pm
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Well I'd be seething by now, don't know about Elsie! Laughing

Thanks Alison.

#164:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 4:00 pm
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Joins Lesley in seething at Jo's sanctimonious, self-satisfied attitude.

#165:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:44 pm
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Typical Jo!
*gets under the desk before Elsie explodes*
Thanks Alison

#166:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:59 pm
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Thanks Alison, I have every confidence in Elsie to be able to put Joey in her place!

Can't wait to see it Very Happy

Kathryn

#167:  Author: AllyLocation: John Bettany's Cabin! PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:32 pm
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Ooh err I can't wait to see what Elsie says in reply!

Thanks Alison

#168:  Author: PatLocation: Doncaster PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:57 pm
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Alison? Isn't it time to update this?

#169:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:37 am
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Joey really does think she owns them, doesn't she. Horrifying. At least it's stopped Elsie being angry with Anna. Think we all ought to duck for the next bit?

#170:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:49 am
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Hope Joey didn't sound too OTT there. I was trying to go off things she actually says in the books - I've been trying to sympathise with her but she just gets so annoying in the Swiss books Laughing !

“I’ll thank you not to go making so free with your assumptions about why I have or have not come round here, especially when you couldn’t be much further wide of the mark,” Elsie snapped. “Called round to thank “us”? I came round to tell Anna Pfeifen that I hope she was flaming pleased with herself yesterday, knowing that those young lasses she was busily directing were being done out of a well-deserved break they’d been looking forward to for days. Not to mention using up my ingredients and messing up my menus that I’d put time and effort into planning.

“However, I can see it’s not her I need to speak to you: it’s you. Did you actually ask her if she minded doing all that work yesterday, by the way? I bet it even never occurred to you to ask what she thought! Mind you, from the sounds if it she’d not’ve felt able to say no anyway. Shame you’ve not got that great horrible dog as well-trained, isn’t it? Tell me, do you always speak about other human beings like you’ve just done to me? As if they’re possessions, to be borrowed or stolen or whatever else? And what’s with the thanking “us” bit? What exactly did you do? Had to make your own coffee for the day whilst Anna Pfeifen was over at the School, did you? No, don’t tell me – you got young Rosli to do it instead! Well, I hope you don’t think you’re going to start “borrowing” me as and when you feel like it!”

“Borrow you? I can’t think of anyone I’d rather have working for me less!” Joey said furiously. “I’ve heard all about your carryings-on. Providing meals that aren’t up to standard. Taking days on end with the laundry. Encouraging the maids to take breaks umpteen times a day – and you needn’t think you’re going to start filling Anna’s head with any of that nonsense: she’s not an impressionable young girl like most of the School maids are and she’s got more sense than to listen to the likes of you.

“I hear about everything that goes on at the School, you know. I might not have been over there much this term, but Miss Annersley and Miss Wilson have been over here and told me what’s been going on. And I couldn’t believe what Mary-Lou told me on Friday, that you were willing to let down hundreds of girls who were all looking forward to their tennis match just to suit yourself! I told the Heads weeks ago that they should have sent you packing. It’s certainly what I would have done.”

“Sent me packing? I’d be out of here so fast my feet wouldn’t touch the ground if I had to work for you!” Elsie retorted. “And by the way, do you have any idea just how ridiculous it sounds for a woman of your age to say that she’s “still a Chalet School girl”? Shall I tell you something for nowt, Mrs Maynard? I was quite looking forward to meeting you. I wouldn’t read your books myself, they’re not my sort of thing; but I was quite impressed when I found out that you work, even if it is only in the comfort of your own great big house, instead of just swanning around being the wife of the Head of the San.

“But now … well, I can see what sort of person you really are! I can understand you wanting some help running a house the size of this one, but it sounds to me like you expect to be waited on hand and foot! “Personal inconvenience” – I’ve never heard such rubbish! My gran might never have had a big house like this to see to but she had a big family – you’re not the only one, you know! - and a job as well; and she never had anyone to run round after her, and nor did any of her neighbours who were in the same position!

“It just doesn’t matter to you that people missed out on the day off they’d been promised, after all the hard work they do for low wages and very little appreciation, does it? So long as a tennis match and a big meal for a load of guests invited at less than a day’s notice went ahead! Your sort think that people like me and this Anna are here for your personal convenience and that we should be so glad of our jobs that we not only accept that but worship the ground you walk on to boot! It makes me sick: it really does. Oh, you don’t have to tell me to leave. I’m going!”

#171:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:58 am
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Well done Elsie, very well done! That all needed to be said - Joey in this is really quite unreasonable - and no I didn't think you were OTT Alison - as you say, all the things Joey said have been said by her in the books.

Thanks! Laughing

#172:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:02 am
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*applauds*

Well said Elsie! Thanks Alison.

#173:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:05 am
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*applauds*

Go Elsie. Now run. I'd have loved to have seen Joey's face. How much that she marches around to the Heads and demands that they sack her?

#174:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:02 am
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Excellent, thanks Alison

#175:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:15 pm
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Maybe joey will think about things a bit?
That could also be an idea

#176:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:13 pm
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Thanks, Alison. Elsie was great at standing up to Joey!

#177:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:49 pm
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Thanks, Alison, lovely to see Jo get her needings.

#178:  Author: Catherine_BLocation: London, UK PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:54 pm
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Hurrah! Well said, Elsie! Laughing

#179:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 2:13 pm
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Thanks, Alison, I really enjoyed that!

#180:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 4:31 pm
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Wow! Shocked
Its about time someone stood up to Jo! Very Happy
Can't wait for Elsie to meet Anna.
Thanks Alison

#181:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:11 pm
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Thanks Alison - I don't think Jo was too OTT at all. And I'm *so* glad Elsie said all of that to her Very Happy

Kathryn

#182:  Author: tiffinataLocation: melbourne, australia PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:46 am
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Don't we love it when Joey gets hers!

#183:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:14 am
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Thanks for the comments Very Happy . I'm sure Elsie and Anna will meet up soon Wink .

Elsie was shaking with anger as she marched out of Freudesheim, banging the door behind her. How Rosli and this Anna put up with that, she didn’t know. And what was all this about Miss Annersley and Miss Wilson going over there and criticising her work behind her back, after everything she’d done to get the domestic department running efficiently again? She clenched her fist in determination. She’d had more than enough of the attitudes that people round here had towards those who worked as domestic staff. Something wanted doing about it - that was for certain.

Joey was furious as well; and within seconds she was on the phone to Hilda Annersley, demanding that Elsie Bradshaw be sacked on the spot. She didn’t care about any stupid agreement about staying till the end of term that Hilda might have signed, she said angrily. She wasn’t being spoken to like that by anyone. And what if the dreadful woman went around speaking to other people in the same way? A fine name that’d get the School! “Mark my words, Hilda!” she said. “That woman’s trouble. The longer you keep her on, the worse things are going to get!”

That last sentiment was one that Hilda was beginning to share; and several of the mistresses were saying that they’d never had problems of this sort before and that quite frankly it was easier to cope with lukewarm coffee and slightly delayed meals than everything that had been happening this term. However, she did have to take account of that agreement, whatever Joey might say – and, anyway, where on earth was she going to find yet another new cook from?

Besides, she had the uncomfortable feeling that publicly dismissing Elsie might very well backfire on her. The woman was unlikely to go quietly, and she seemed to have the overwhelming support of the rest of her department. Deciding that it might be best not to share these thoughts with Joey, she just said that she was sorry that Joey had been upset, and that feelings were running high at the moment and she was sure that Mrs Bradshaw didn’t make a habit of being rude to people.

That didn’t stop Joey from ringing up repeatedly over the next few days and continuing to complain about the matter at length. Hilda was sorely tempted to point out that it was no more Joey’s place to demand that a member of the School’s staff be dismissed than it was her place to reprimand that member of staff for what they’d said off School premises to someone who wasn’t officially part of the School at all.

During the following week, the Headmistress spent a lot of time trying to decide what her next move should be. With Joey ranting and raving about Elsie Bradshaw’s attitude and behaviour, and Josette being a close friend of both Mary-Lou and Hilary who were at the centre of the row over the tennis match, if things didn’t calm down soon it could surely only be a matter of time before Madge Russell came to hear about everything that was going on. Then she’d be getting involved as well, or at the very least wanting to know what Hilda was doing about it. This was all rapidly getting out of hand. What was the best thing to do? Wait and hope that things settled down of their own accord? Or take some action and, if so, what?

#184:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:21 am
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I'm surprised Joey hasn't been put to bed with a small something in her coffee if she carried on like that; surely it isn't good for her to get so over-excited!

#185:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:44 am
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Thanks Alison.

#186:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:46 am
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Typical Joey. Thankyou Alison.

#187:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:51 am
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And so the tension mounts...

Thanks, Alison.

#188:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:58 am
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Thanks Alison, I'm glad Hilda isn't listening to Joey!

#189:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:43 am
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Thanks, Alison. I'm still disappointed that Elsie hasn't managed to motivate Anna to speak up for herself

ETA: how about a large dose in Jo's coffee?

#190:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 2:41 pm
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Thanks Alison, Hilda is definitely in a really tricky position here and I can well imagine her not wanting Madge to hear what's going on.

Thank you Very Happy

Kathryn

#191:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:46 pm
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Actually Hilda is being rather a wimp here - why couldn't she tell Joey that it's not Joey's place to demand someone be dismissed? And as for Madge - if she had given suitable funding in the first place so that sufficient domestic staff could be hired this wouldn't have happened. |Perhaps Madge should be told - and told to fix it!

Thanks Alison.

#192:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:54 pm
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Isn't Jo still a shareholder? It would be hard for Hilda to tell her what to do then! But obvs that would mean she would have the right to say who should be hired and fired.... within reason of course.

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#193:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:57 pm
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Certainly it sounds as though there may need to be an increase in the budget for the following financial year to fund an increased domestic staff.

#194:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:47 pm
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Joey's a shareholder, but I think the main problem is that she's Madge's sister and Madge is the majority shareholder and always seems to be regarded as the "owner" of the School.

I remember there being a discussion a while ago about EBD seeming to forget that the School was originally a partnership between Madge and Mlle Lepattre and that therefore the Lecoutiers should've been major shareholders too!!

Just to go slightly OT, seeing as I work in accounts I know that it is a v. v. boring subject, but no-one at the CS actually seems to do anything about keeping financial records - there's no bookkeeper or wages clerk (maybe the staff just don't pay any tax!), unless Rosalie had to do all that side of thing as well as everything else! Don't schools normally employ a bursar (is that the correct job title?!)?

#195:  Author: KatherineLocation: London, UK PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:03 pm
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We had a bursar at my school (secondary school), in the 90s. Although it was state-run so the Local Education Authority actually paid the staff.
I guess it would fall to Rosalie. Again.

Loving this drabble (even if I can't quite bear to see Joey and all the rest being so evil).

#196:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:05 pm
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It was one of the areas in the Real Chalet School that i touched on - the RCS has a Bursar and financial section. To begin with I expect the School was too small to need anything like that - but even before the Anscluss it has grown significantly. I don't think EBD bothered about things like that - or thought her readers wouldn't be interested.

#197:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:06 pm
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I think that Rosalie's position must cut across a number of roles, including that of Bursar. I can't imagine anyone else dealing with eg. school fees. No wonder she is described as being overworked.

#198:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:57 pm
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Alison H wrote:
I remember there being a discussion a while ago about EBD seeming to forget that the School was originally a partnership between Madge and Mlle Lepattre and that therefore the Lecoutiers should've been major shareholders too!!


Thanks, Alison. I am rereading 'School at', and I was thinking today actually that Simone and her relations should have gone to the CS for free if the Bettanys/Maynards/Russells were allowed to.

#199:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:18 pm
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They don't just need a larger budget for the domestic staff, they really need an attitude transplant. The days of thinking that girls were willing to take jobs that demand heavy labour and long days because they are of peasant stock, 'uneducated' - i.e. have never been pupils at the CS, and are wiiling and adoring slaves was out of date by the time EBD died. So it's high time the school gave some thought to those who do the hard work. If a teacher does something slightly out of the way, as when Nancy Wilmot had to deal with Joan Baker in 'Problem', she's cossetted and left to have a sleep, but if Miggi or Karen had put themselves out, they wouldn't have been expected to take even a minute off.

#200:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:39 pm
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Yes, but the 50s are very different to now as well; an increased budget would be a good start, particularly as the subject of fees is always sensitive whether then or now!

#201:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:45 pm
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It's reckoned that independent schools increase their fees by 10% per year, anyway.

ETA: if it's no trouble to do all that work, why don't OOAO and her cohorts go to work in the kitchen for a few days and ask dear Aunt Jo along as well?

#202:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:09 pm
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I had two sons at private school - believe me... 10% per year seems reasonable.

#203:  Author: DawnLocation: Leeds, West Yorks PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:56 pm
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I've read all of this over the last couple of days and it's been really really interesting

Back in 1979 I'd just done the first 2 terms of a catering course and was sent on a live in placement at the age of just 17. It was a posh Country House Hotel and the permanent cook hadn't had any time off over the winter. So I ended up working 80+ hours a week and running the kitchen Shocked All for £18 a week. When I complained to the college (they'd arranged the placement), they said that it was really hard to find enough placements for everyone and it was a case of put up with it.

If that happened to my daughter now, I think I'd be rather cross.

#204:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:50 am
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Thanks for the comments. This next part's a bit of a "filler" to lead on towards half term.

With half term approaching, Hilda decided that the best approach would be to do nothing for the time being. Sometimes a break from the normal routine went a long way towards soothing feelings all round, and hopefully that would be the case this time. Joey, meanwhile, was still absolutely fuming about the way that Elsie had spoken to her. Due to her “delicate” condition she was neither going out much nor receiving many visitors at the moment, and so she was more than ready to chat about all the latest School news when Josette, Maeve and Ailie came over to see her on the Saturday following the tennis match.

The situation with the domestic staff was discussed at length. Without repeating exactly what had been said, Joey made it clear to her nieces that the School cook had been appallingly rude to her and hadn’t uttered a word of thanks for all the work that Anna had done the previous Saturday. Josette added that Mary-Lou and Hilary were both extremely upset by what was being said about them and that the maids seemed to have given people a somewhat inaccurate impression of what had actually happened. Maeve wasn’t entirely inclined to agree, but she did add that she couldn’t remember there ever being any trouble between the domestic staff and the rest of the School before this term.

Ailie took all this in, and later she agreed with Janice and Judy, and the rest of their form who usually followed their lead, that maybe they should take some action about it. They’d all been on their best behaviour since getting into trouble with Matron and Miss Annersley earlier in the term, and were more than ready for a bit of excitement. Throughout the following week, the domestic staff found themselves being sent on false errands, buckets of water and cleaning materials suddenly vanishing from where they’d been put down and cutlery disappearing from the Speisesaal and turning up in various strange places around the School.

The culprits were duly reprimanded and made to apologise when Elsie discovered what was happening and complained to their form mistress, but the School was used to Middles playing silly pranks and this “latest effort” wasn’t taken particularly seriously. Under other circumstances the domestic staff might not have taken it particularly seriously either. As it was, Elsie in particular interpreted both the incidents themselves and the failure to do anything much about them as evidence that the pupils and the “upstairs” staff all regarded the domestic staff with a complete and utter lack of respect. Attitudes in the domestic department hardened even further as a result

By the last week before half term, the weather had gone very warm. Everyone was hot and bothered, especially Elsie and the rest of the kitchen staff who’d ended up changing the menu for the rest of the week because no-one wanted a lot of hot food in these temperatures. Whilst the girls excitedly discussed where they were going on their half term expeditions, Elsie was summoned to Hilda’s study to discuss the domestic arrangements for the holiday week.

#205:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:07 am
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From one Alison to another, you have no idea what these cliffs are doing to my stress levels... Very Happy

Actually I think Joey is being abominably rude and rather silly - talking about staff to pupils is really not on. I suspect that if Madge knew about that bit she wouldn't be too happy!

#206:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:50 am
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Thanks, Alison. I'm sorry that the domestic staff had to go on false errands.

#207:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:45 am
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Thanks Alison. I think the school are wrong not to discipline the girls more for the tricks on the domestic staff - it's teaching them not to have respect for the cooks and cleaners etc who work hard to look after them.

This is certainly very thought-provoking Very Happy

Kathryn

#208:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:51 am
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I remember the incident with Gaudenz and the linseed oil...

#209:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:10 pm
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Thanks Alison Very Happy

#210:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:12 pm
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Thanks, Alison, it's easy to see how attitudes can harden.

#211:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:49 pm
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Lines are being drawn here, aren't they?

And Joey had no right to say anything to the girls.

Thanks Alison.

#212:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:21 pm
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Ooh half term always a disaster there Very Happy
thanks Alison

#213:  Author: tiffinataLocation: melbourne, australia PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:55 am
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All it needs is an epidemic and to cancel the weekend..... Twisted Evil

#214:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:25 am
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tiffinata wrote:
All it needs is an epidemic and to cancel the weekend..... Twisted Evil


You just had to say that, didn't you? Laughing Wink

#215:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:53 am
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I know they only got half a week for half term, but I'm making it a full week to give me chance to concentrate on Anna for a bit Very Happy .

“Not all of us’ll be getting half term week off, Miss Annersley - that I’m aware of,” Elsie said as she took a seat opposite the Headmistress. “The place’ll be wanting a good bottoming whilst none of the girls are here, and all the bedding and tablecloths and so on that’ve been used this week’ll need washing. We’ve pretty much sorted out amongst ourselves who’ll be working and who won’t, and of course anyone who’s working this time won’t be working October half term or February half term. Really, no-one should have to work a full week, so we’ll all get a bit of a rest – hopefully you’ll agree we could all do with one! You needn’t worry: I’ve already drawn up the rosters for next week and things are all under control.”

She sat back in her chair with satisfaction. Everything was organised: she’d put a lot of effort into planning it all. That’d show Hilda Annersley! Complaining about her to Joey Maynard like that!

“Well, there’ll be rather more than that to be done,” Hilda said. “Of course, some of the mistresses will be accompanying those pupils who’re with the School for half term on their excursions – the Sixth Formers are going to the Ticino, the Fifth Formers to Zermatt, and so on, as you may have seen on the noticeboard – and others will be taking a week's holiday, but there will also be some people based here for the week. Miss Dene, Matron Lloyd and I will certainly be here, amongst others.

“Obviously we don’t do our normal term-time work during half term week, but we still need our meals as usual. Did none of the maids tell you that? I expect they assumed that you’d realised. Also, Matron usually does a full check of all the linen during the holidays, and she’ll be needing some assistance with that. So I should imagine that those of you who are here next week will have a fairly full schedule, unless some of those who were going to have the week off work for part it instead.”

Elsie shook her head in frustration. “Be fair, Miss Annersley! If Matron wants to check the linen then that’s up to her, but why should other people have to miss out on time off during a holiday week because of it? And I notice you’re not offering to send any of us to Zermatt or anywhere else! And for one week could one of them, the teachers I mean, not see to cooking their meals, if it’s only for a few of them? Why is it always us that get the worst of everything?”

Hilda sighed. “Mrs Bradshaw, I really would appreciate it if you could try to make a little less use of the expressions “them” and “us”. This is a boarding school; we all have to live and work under the same roof; and there’s no denying the fact that since your arrival here a marked division has developed between the domestic staff and everyone else. It’s making life unpleasant for everyone and quite frankly it can’t go on.”

Elsie raised her eyebrows. “Since my arrival here!” she said. “This is the place where the domestic staff and the teaching staff aren’t even allowed to use the same sitting room, where none of us are invited to any of your so-called staff evenings, and where your staff can’t even remember what half of my staff’s names are! There’s a division all right, but I hardly think that I’m the one responsible for it. And if there was some proper written agreement about who got what time off when then we’d not need to be discussing all this in the first place. This School’s run like something out of another century!” She hadn’t intended to say so much; but she meant it all the same.

“Mrs Bradshaw, that is enough!” Hilda said sharply. “I appreciate that the way that this School works may not be what you’re used to or what you feel is right; but we do things as we think best and I will not have any member of staff, from any department, coming into my study and making comments like that. Please remember that if you find that things here are not to your satisfaction then you are free to leave at the end of term – and please remember too that I am free to ask you to leave at the end of term should I feel that it would be in the School’s best interests for me to so do.”

She hadn’t intended to say so much either, but she wasn’t entirely sorry that she’d done so. This really wasn’t working. Elsie Bradshaw’s views and the Chalet School’s views were poles apart, and as long as the woman remained at the School it was just going to be one confrontation after another. Roll on half term week! At least it ought to provide a respite, even if it was only a temporary one, from all this conflict.

#216:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:13 am
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Really? No conflict? That would be a different story...

Such unhelpful polarisation... Such a good plot!!!

#217:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:01 am
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Thanks Alison, I'd never really thought that half term probably wasn't that much of a break from the daily grind for the domestic staff.

Thank you Very Happy

#218:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:51 am
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maybe she can cook meals in advance for the staff and just have to warm them up (its just a few more portions)

#219:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:13 am
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I think Hilda needs to realise that the domestic staff need a break as much as the teaching staff and girls.. Thanks Alison. This is fab

#220:  Author: ElleLocation: Peterborough PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:51 am
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It is indeed fab, and I am enjoying it very much!

Thank you Alison.

#221:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:27 pm
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This is really brilliant. Wish frozen ready meals were around so the staff could just survive on them.

Thanks Alison

#222:  Author: Identity HuntLocation: UK PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:44 pm
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Alison,
this has been wonderful from the first post, and it just gets more and more brilliant !
I can`t wait to see what happens in half-term......... Wink

#223:  Author: JustJenLocation: sitting on the steps PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:08 pm
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If Elsie does go,I wonder how many of the dom. staff will folllow?

#224:  Author: ChelseaLocation: Your Imagination PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:51 pm
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To be fair though, the domestic staff is going to need to eat, so meals will be made anyway (even if no teaching staff stayed). It would really be that difficult to make a few more servings. They needn't serve it 'properly'.

#225:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:13 pm
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Yes, they could all eat the same meals, perhaps the staff that remain could sit in the domestic staff's dining room and eat with them to save on the work! Besides which, I can't imagine there are cooking facilities that the mistresses could use to do more than heat up milk or boil water on, so they'd have to go into Elsie's kitchen to cook their meals. Can you imagine the tension that would cause?!

Thanks, Alison, this is so thought provoking.

#226:  Author: La Petite EmLocation: Cheltenham PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:46 pm
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This is brilliant Alison, Elsie is so great!
Thanks!! Very Happy

#227:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:11 pm
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francesn wrote:
This is really brilliant. Wish frozen ready meals were around so the staff could just survive on them.

Thanks Alison


My first thought was "Hot Pockets for the mistresses!" (Do they have Hot Pockets in Britain?) Alternatively--"Freezer pizza and Linda McCartney brand faux sausage rolls for the mistresses!"

There is some comment in the books somewhere about everyone loving Karen's vegetable sausages but them being so hard to make, so they only get served once a term (I think it's in Summer Term.) This is where Linda McCartney comes in.

Chang

#228:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:28 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I'm sorry that Hilda is being so uncooperative.

#229:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:18 pm
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Hilda must feel as though she is sitting on a powder keg. She is a fair woman but she is Head. How easy it is to separate into 'us' and 'them'... in life as well as in fiction!

#230:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:32 pm
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And in fairness - the Teaching Staff will be working too - looking after the pupils on these trips is hardly a holiday!

I think Hilda does need to start listening to Elsie's concerns, however. Although she is trying to balance everything, she is not being quite so fair as normal - tempering justice with mercy?

Thanks Alison.

#231:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:20 am
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Ouch, that's a tricky one, isn't it. Seems to me that neither side really understands the stresses the other has to cope with, and that they do need much clearer job descriptions for everyone. And life is different in a boarding school, so perhaps responsibilities need to be even more clearly spelt out.

I have some reservations, though ... when I was teaching, because of the site of the building I was in charge of (joined on to the kitchen, with communicating doors), I had more contact with the kitchen staff than probably anyone else on the teaching staff, and they were, of course, my friends, but they'd have hated to have to share the general staff room. When we had French Exchange visits over, we used to include the coach drivers with the teaching staff until we realised that they found it embarrassing and awkward and really didn't want it. Don't know what that says, but it's anecdotal evidence of something! Any sociologists/psychologists out there?

#232:  Author: jenniferLocation: Taiwan PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:14 am
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I think the Hilda is still clinging to the belief that all they need is a firm hand on the reins - like Karen or Matey - to whip the kitchen and cleaning staff into shape, and then everything will be back to normal. At some point she's going to have to accept that the world has changed since they set up the school, and they will have to change their expectations and treatment of the household staff if they want competent work and a lower staff turnover.

Although written job descriptions and a vacation policy would help. It's easier pitch in an unusual circumstance if you know that it really is an emergency (rather than just thoughtlessness) and that you'll get some sort of compensation later. Half the problems are because the upstairs staff has a set of implicit assumptions about the duties and responsibilities of the downstairs staff which have never formally been set down or discussed, so they come up as crises.

If they sack Elsie at the end of term, I can see 2/3 of the existing household staff putting in their notice when they realise that things will get worse again.

#233:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:51 am
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Thanks for the really interesting comments Very Happy . Here's the next part. It's mentioned in either "Trials" or "Theodora" (can't remember which one!) that the triplets got their own rooms when they were 14. Joey's remarks to Madge are based on part of their conversation at the beginning of "Joey & Co" - slightly out of context because at that point Mike's just fallen down a cliff and Joey's "collapsed", but it's her comments about Anna that I'm picking up on and they aren't really affected by that. Anything that is/is nearly a direct quote's in blue - hope that's OK Very Happy .

Anna was glad that the triplets were joining the Fifth Forms’ expedition to Zermatt. Usually they not only came home at half term but brought friends with them as well, which made for an awful lot of extra work. She was devoted to all three of them, and they weren’t really any trouble and were often willing to help out with the younger children; but when they were at home it meant more mouths to feed and more clothes to wash, on top of everything else that she and Rosli had to do day in, day out.

Len, Con and Margot had all been given their own rooms after their fourteenth birthday the previous November, meaning that there was even more cleaning to be done at Freudesheim than there’d been previously. Now Frau Doktor Maynard was saying that maybe the elder boys should each have a room of their own when Stephen and Charles came home for the summer holidays, which would make for yet more work.

Anna supposed she’d realised that opening up some of the empty rooms at Freudesheim would be inevitable as the elder children grew up, but she also supposed that she’d expected that by then she and Rosli wouldn’t have any babies to look after. It was all very well Frau Doktor Maynard saying that having a big family made life easier for everyone, Anna thought, but – not that both she and Rosli didn’t adore each and every one of the children – quite frankly it didn’t.

Things were difficult at the moment. The Frau Doktor was taking the view that being “busy” meant that she shouldn’t overtax her strength in this hot weather; so she was doing very little at all. Cecil was fractious because of the heat. Mike and the twins were bored, but neither she nor Rosli had the time to take them anywhere, and anyway public transport on the Platz wasn’t particularly good; and the Herr Doktor was always busy at the San and rarely seemed to have much time to spend with the little ones. And there was going to be even more to do when the new baby arrived.

Oh well, at least she and Rosli would be joining the Maynards on their trip to the Tiernsee in the summer: Frau Doktor Maynard had told her that. No doubt there’d be plenty of work for them to do, but Die Blumen was nothing like the size of Freudesheim and surely both Herr and Frau Doktor Maynard would want to spend time with their children whilst they were all together - a rare occurrence now that the elder boys were at school in England. Hopefully she’d get plenty of time to spend with her family, and chance to go and visit Karen.

She was thinking about all this a few days before the School broke up for half term, whilst she was dusting the Saal - in which the mistress of the house had just taken a phone call from her elder sister. Anna had offered to leave the room, but Joey had signalled to her to carry on with what she was doing.

“Oh stop fussing, Madge!” Joey was saying. “You sound positively school-marmish! All right, maybe I have been overdoing it ever since I came to live in Switzerland, but we’re off to the Tiernsee in the summer and, believe me, I mean to have a really good holiday once we’re settled down. What’s that? The children? Oh, that’s the beauty of having a long family! The girls and Steve can help with the younger ones. What? Take Mike, the twins and Cecil to stay with you during the holidays. Oh no, I couldn’t be without them all that time; I really couldn’t. Just whilst we’re at the Tiernsee? Well, I suppose it’s not a bad idea, if you’re really sure. Rosa will be delighted, you say? And you’ve already spoken to Jack about it? Oh all right, all right! I’ll agree, and I promise to take life easily whilst we’re away!

Anyhow, I’m taking both Anna and Rosli with me, so I shall have help the whole time. You needn’t worry about me, Madge – I intend to relax and enjoy myself! Thanks, Madge. We’ll sort out the details nearer the time. Give my love to Jem. Bye, Madge. Bye.”

#234:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:01 am
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Ho hum... it will be interesting to read Anna's response to that... Joey does seem somewhat idle minded at the moment.

#235:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:39 am
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I hope Elsie meets Anna soon!

#236:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:11 am
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Poor Anna and Rosli! and Len and Steve for that matter!

#237:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:16 am
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Doesn't Jo just assume that everything she does is perfect?

#238:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:24 pm
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I guess once you stop looking at people as real people, it's easy to forget that they might have different opinions to you!

Thanks Alison Very Happy

Kathryn

#239:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:52 pm
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I have always felt that Joey's attitude towards Len borders on abuse. I know those are strong words, and I don't think I've ever felt that it crosses the crazy-parenting-vs-abuse line, but it has always seemed to border on it, to me.

I do understand that in earlier generations, children were expected to help out more than they are now, and, in general, I think that's wonderful. Also, I understand that, in large families, elder children are expected to help with the younger ones. But there is a difference between helping with the younger ones and being a second mother or nusery-maid, and that is where Len seems to end up.

Joey's attitude in Summer Term, that if she dies in the train wreck, it will be okay, because Jack and Len will look after the other ten kids and various wards? Not reasonable. Joey's pulling Len and the other triplets out of school in Triplets to look after Cecil? Not reasonable. Joey's attitude here, that she can have a holiday and Len and Steve and Anna and Rosli and Rosa will look after the other children and any new wards they may happen to meet? Not reasonable.

Tangent, but...grrr. Maybe Elsie can meet Len as well and discuss interpersonal boundaries and what the extent of her familial responsibilities needs to be.

Anyone care to write "Len Goes on Strike"?

Chang

#240:  Author: jenniferLocation: Taiwan PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:24 pm
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Changnoi wrote:
But there is a difference between helping with the younger ones and being a second mother or nusery-maid, and that is where Len seems to end up.


Jack doesn't help either - he's trained the children to look after their mother to the point that they'll take things on themselves to avoid bothering Joey when she's 'busy' or stressed. When Mike nearly goes over the cliff he's so concerned about Joey that he doesn't even speak to Mike for days - Joey's had a shock, but his eight year old son was nearly killed and doesn't get so much hug.

I have the feeling that after a year or two away from home and not responsible for anyone, Len might start keeping her visits to the Platz quite short.

Joey's assertation that the more children you have, the easier and better it is for all rests entirely on Anna, Rosa and her mother's help in term time, and Len and Steve in the holidays, plus a whack of inherited money for the elder children and free tuition for all the girls. Imagine private school for eleven children on Jack's income!

#241:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:47 pm
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I love reading everyone's comments on this - thank you Very Happy !

I think it's normal enough to expect the older children of a large family to help with the younger ones, even if it's not very fair on the older ones, but it does all seem to fall on Len (even if she does sometimes take it upon herself to "take charge"). At the beginning of Joey & Co Madge comments on how Len dealt with everything when Mike had his mishap. & I can't believe the way Joey expects Stephen to supervise the younger lads - Stephen was only about 11 at the time, and it doesn't seem very responsible to expect him to be responsible for watching the others, especially around lakes and mountains where (as we know!!!) accidents are prone to happen.

BTW, later in the book (I think it's the same book) we're told that Len is Anna's favourite, which really annoys me!!

The Maynards didn't have to pay for the girls to go to the Chalet School - it's mentioned in one of the Swiss books. I bet that seriously annoyed Hilda - OK, if I owned a school I suppose I wouldn't charge my relations to go to it either, but think how much money they lost (assuming that Dick's girls didn't have to pay either) on giving Madge's relations free places that other people would've paid for! & they end up packing Mike off to be tutored with the Embury boys before he was old enough to go to school, and I bet they didn't offer to share the costs Laughing !

Jack never seems to help much with the kids - I know he worked very hard at the San, but he could have taken them out when he was off and given Anna and Rosli a break. Madge is no better - she says that Rosa will be delighted that the Maynard kids are coming to stay because she'll enjoy having little girls to look after (Kevin and Kester were the only "nursery age" Russells at this point). Right, I bet Rosa was well chuffed at being lumbered with 4 extra kids like that!

& just how had Joey been "overdoing it" ever since moving to Switzerland?!

I'm surprised Anna and Rosli didn't collapse with stress after that summer - first Joey had twins, then 3 months later all 3 Richardsons moved into Freudesheim!!

*Rant over Embarassed Laughing .*

#242:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:23 pm
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Alison H wrote:
The Maynards didn't have to pay for the girls to go to the Chalet School - it's mentioned in one of the Swiss books. I bet that seriously annoyed Hilda - OK, if I owned a school I suppose I wouldn't charge my relations to go to it either, but think how much money they lost (assuming that Dick's girls didn't have to pay either) on giving Madge's relations free places that other people would've paid for!

But isn't that assuming that you are in the business for the profit and not for the educational side of things. I'm sure there's a good word that means working to cover your expenses and not make a profit because you are more eager to educate the children in your school than to get a pile of money in the bank. As I now work for a school that does the pile of money in the bank thing, I think that the Chalet School would be the opposite - the girls would pay enough to cover the food and tuition and so on, and the owners would be happy if they didn't make millions for themselves.

One of the (many) good things about this drabble is all the debate it's sparked. It's fascinating reading everyone's takes on all that is going on with the domestic staff and what they think of the attitudes of various characters. So thanks a lot, Alison, for providing a stimulating and fascinating story!

#243:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:31 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I'm wondering why Joey needs a rest in Tirol - she hasn't really been doing anything to deserve a rest!

#244:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:15 pm
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Thanks Alison - Joey's attitude at the beginning of Joey and Co in Tirol is the one good thing - she is adamant that Mike be seen and forgiven. Everyone else had severely snubbed him and kept him in disgrace - except poor Len - a girl of only 14 - left to deal with little Mike having nightmares! Evil or Very Mad

#245:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:26 pm
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Jack really was a rotten lousy father around this time, wasn't he?!! He didn't handle the incident with Mike at all well, and when he was told about the Margot/Ted business
Quote:
for a full fortnight he had refused to have anything to do with her
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#246:  Author: jenniferLocation: Taiwan PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:20 am
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Chair wrote:
Thanks, Alison. I'm wondering why Joey needs a rest in Tirol - she hasn't really been doing anything to deserve a rest!


It's a pattern with her though. About every two or three years she works herself into a state of exhaustion and has to be sent off to rest - after they move to England from Guernsey she's in bed for two weeks, she's exhausted at the beginning of their Canadian trip, and she's sent to Penny Rest for a real break with someone selse to look after the children while she rests at least once.

It's not surprising, given her high strung disposition and the how frenetic she is most of the time - high energy, always in the middle of things, always on the go, and having kids about every two years.

#247:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:42 am
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Elsie supposed that criticising the School to Miss Annersley’s face hadn’t really been the best way of going about things; but she’d just been so annoyed. What had been said about half term hadn’t really been all that bad – they’d have to cook for themselves anyway, so making meals for those of the “upstairs” staff who were around wouldn’t make that much difference; and surely even Matron couldn’t take that long checking the wretched linen.

What annoyed her was the attitude – why couldn’t they have some sort of proper agreement about duties and holidays, instead of it always being taken for granted that the domestic staff would just fit in with what was decided by everyone else? That those of the “upstairs” staff who were spending half term either working or escorting the pupils on their excursions might have appreciated a week off as well wasn’t something she gave much thought to. They weren’t her concern and it seemed to her that they rarely, if ever, gave a second thought to her department’s welfare.

She felt that she needed to get out of the School building, and on her next break she headed for a quiet part of the grounds, close to that ridiculous gate that led into the Maynards’ garden. She hadn’t expected anyone else to be there, but she heard the sound of sobbing and saw a fair-haired woman in her mid-thirties leaning against the fence, holding an apron over her face and weeping into it. “What on earth’s to do here?” she asked.

The woman looked up. “Oh, I’m sorry!” she gasped. “I’m Anna: I work next door. I just had to get away from there for a few minutes.” She looked at the person who’d spoken to her and realised who she must be. “You must be Mrs Bradshaw,” she said nervously. Rosli had told her in detail everything that the new School cook had said to Frau Doktor Maynard after that tennis match that she’d been volunteered to cater for. Rosli had been inclined to agree with some of Mrs Bradshaw’s remarks and had been impressed by the fact that she’d dared to make them, not to mention thoroughly enjoying the drama; but Anna had been quite shocked by it all and rather upset that she’d been the unwitting cause of such an unpleasant contretemps.

“You’d best call me Elsie. I gather you’re housekeeper at Freudesheim in all but name, so by rights if you’re going to call me “Mrs Bradshaw” I should be calling you “Fraulein Pfeifen”, and it’s all a bit formal for out in the garden in all this heat! D’you want to tell me what’s bothering you? They say that a problem shared’s a problem halved, and I don’t like to see anyone in such a state. A pound to a bucket it’s something to do with Mrs Maynard!”

“Er … well, yes, I suppose it is,” Anna said doubtfully. She wasn’t sure it was appropriate to be discussing Freudesheim business with a complete stranger, especially one whom she knew that her mistress intensely disliked.

Elsie sighed. “Out with it, then! Come on, love – you’re obviously very upset over something, and nothing would surprise me where that woman’s concerned!”

Oh well, Anna thought. Drying her eyes, she haltingly gave Elsie a brief account of how tired she was, how she’d asked for time off and been refused it, how there was going to be even more to do once the new baby came, how she’d been looking forward to going to the Tiernsee and how it now seemed that she’d be expected to work all the time they were there. Elsie, sorely tempted though she kept being to interrupt, managed not to make any comment until Anna had finished speaking.

#248:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:08 am
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Bearing in mind Elsie's attitude towards Anna after the using up of her ingredients, she's being so nice to Anna now. It's going to be interesting to hear her advice to Anna, and how Anna receives this advice! Thanks, Alison.

#249:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:09 am
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Ooh, looking forward to the next bit!

#250:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:14 am
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Poor Anna. Looking forward to seeing where this goes! Thankyou!

#251:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:46 am
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I hope Elsie doesn't try to bulldoze Anna - but equally, I'm looking forward to their discussion.

#252:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:28 am
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lovely,
I can understand joey being tired, she does get up in the night for the children and when they are teething etc.
and as you get older it is not so easy to be pregnant especially with twins.
problem is, if Rosli sleeps in the night nursery she would be tired too!

#253:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:26 am
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Thanks, Alison. I'm glad that Anna is opening up to Elsie.

#254:  Author: RroseSelavyLocation: Oxford, UK PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:56 pm
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I'm doing a post-holiday catch up with the board and just read this all in one go - it's great Alison. It really does make you analyse the arrangements and attitudes at the school. Elsie is fantastic - strong but not perfect and very realistic!

I don't think that any of the teaching staff, or Joey, are deliberately patronising/unfeeling towards the domestic staff. They've probably just never thought about them as 'real people,' if you see what I mean. They're just seen in terms of their job title.

#255:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:56 pm
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The point is that Jo is just ignoring Anna's needs. To Jo, her needs come first, and yes, I do know it's tiring to be heavliy pregnant in hot weather, but for her not to understand that Anna needs a break from her everlasting round of duties is the outside of enough. If Anna has to work all the time at the Tiernsee, it won't be any holiday for her.

Remember the picnic they went on in 'And Co'?

Anna had got up early to do the baking, the girls were doing the sandwiches and the rest of the food, and Jo was making a few flasks of drinks, which is hardly hard work as a lot of it was diluting a fruit cordial made by Anna.

#256:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:16 pm
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Jennie wrote:
The point is that Jo is just ignoring Anna's needs. To Jo, her needs come first, and yes, I do know it's tiring to be heavliy pregnant in hot weather, but for her not to understand that Anna needs a break from her everlasting round of duties is the outside of enough. If Anna has to work all the time at the Tiernsee, it won't be any holiday for her.

Remember the picnic they went on in 'And Co'?

Anna had got up early to do the baking, the girls were doing the sandwiches and the rest of the food, and Jo was making a few flasks of drinks, which is hardly hard work as a lot of it was diluting a fruit cordial made by Anna.


But then when they do go to Tyrol in And Co, Jack points out to Len that the last time they went to the Tyrol--which is presumably this time, since this story is set near the time of Excitements--Joey didn't get much of a holiday and needs to rest...

Chang

#257:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:36 pm
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Thank you Alison, it's good to see what a genuinely nice person Elsie is Very Happy

Thank you!

#258:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:10 pm
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Can't see Elsie being very sympathetic toward Jo - other women manage and she appears to have completely lost her famed insight and empathy where Anna is concerned.

Elais was very kind to speak with Anna.

Thanks Alison.

#259:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:20 am
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Hope this part isn't too long Rolling Eyes !

“You are entitled to time off, you know,” Elsie pointed out.

“That’s what Karen’s husband says,” Anna said. “Karen who used to work here, I mean. Karen keeps saying I should go and stay with them – they run a hotel in Mayrhofen - or with my family at the Tiernsee, but the Maynards say they can’t spare me for a week. There’re only me and Rosli there, you see, and four children who aren’t at school yet and another one due soon, and even just looking after the house is a lot of work.”

“Trouble is that people like the Maynards aren’t used to seeing to these things for themselves, and they’re used to having a whole load of people working for them!” Elsie said. “It’s one of the worst problems at the School – they expect us to do more work than they've domestic staff for, because they say they can’t afford to employ any more. Twenty or thirty years ago, with a house the size of Freudesheim and all those children, a family like the Maynards’d’ve had maybe three or four people working for them.

“I’ve been asking round about them since I had the dubious pleasure of meeting Mrs Maynard! Dr Maynard grew up in some big place that now belongs to the National Trust, I gather? And I don’t suppose he concerns himself much with the domestic arrangements, does he? I should imagine he takes the view that all that’s up to his wife to sort out. And Mrs Maynard having been born in India – I believe it was quite common for British families working there to employ a number of staff in their homes, and maybe her brother and sister expected life’d always be like that and passed that view on to her. They’re both in England, I understand - her brother and sister. Has she no relatives or friends living close by who could maybe take the kiddies for a few hours once in a while, at least whilst she’s expecting? ”

Anna shook her head. “They’ve no family here at all, apart from their nieces at the School. As for friends and neighbours … well, other than the School, there’re Frau Doktor Graves and Frau Doktor Courvoisier, but she doesn’t really see that much of either of them and they’ve never offered to have the children round. Having said which, they’ve got homes of their own to look after and they’ve got two young children each, twin babies in Frau Doktor Courvoisier’s case. They seem to manage a lot better than Frau Doktor Maynard does, though. I can see that she’d find it difficult to manage without both Rosli and me there but I’m exhausted. I’m doing my best but I don’t know how much longer I can carry on like this.”

“What you need is some sort of proper agreement about time off!” Elsie said. “Although you look so tired that I reckon you should see about a holiday before you start getting into any discussions about anything. Tell her you’re having a week off and that that’s that, if she wouldn’t agree when you asked her. Either she’ll have to cope for a week, Dr Maynard’ll have to help out a bit more or they’ll have to make other arrangements. The children and the house are their responsibility when all’s said and done: no-one made them have such a big family or get such a big house.”

“I don’t think I could,” Anna said. “What if she turned round and said that if that was my attitude then she’d find someone else? I’ve been with them for years and I’ve known all the children since they were born. What would I do?”

“She wouldn’t tell you to leave!” Elsie said. “Believe you me, she wouldn’t! She knows which side her bread’s buttered on – she was singing your praises to me in between having a go at me. And where would she find someone else from? Look how many cooks the School’s had since your mate Karen left. It’s not all that easy to replace someone after so many years. I’m telling you – if you stood up to her about it, she’d let you go.”

“I’m not sure,” Anna said doubtfully. “If I went and Frau Doktor Maynard wasn’t totally happy about it, she’d have Rosli doing my work as well as her own for a week, and that wouldn’t be fair. And we really couldn’t both go the same week.”

“You tell Rosli to stand up to her!” Elsie said firmly. “What’s more, tell her that if she has any trouble with dear Frau Doktor Maynard then she can ask me to go over there and give her some moral support! And that goes for you too. Folk like us have to stand up for ourselves in this life, Anna. We end up getting walked all over if we don’t.”

#260:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:49 am
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I think Anna's going to need a little more convincing before she stands up to Jo, but hopefully Elsie is up to the task. She's quite right about the Maynards, they should take responsibility for things themselves.

#261:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:46 am
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I bet Karen would offer Anna a job like a shot - she'd have no trouble getting work!

Thanks Alison - interesting having Elsie figure out the background like that - and wonder why Biddy and Hilary haven't had so many problems - Biddy, at least, has a completly different background - bet she wouldn't mistreat any help.

#262:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:11 am
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Hope Elsie can convince Anna. Thanks Alison.

#263:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:59 am
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Thanks, Alison. I hope that Anna will find the courage to stand up to Joey.

#264:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:09 am
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Well done Elsie.

I seem to remember in later books that both Hilary and Biddy end up sharing Rosli with Joey!

I was rereading the Theodora transcript yesterday and it mentioned that both Rosli and Anna were given two weeks holiday. Yet from memory that is the only time that they are given time off? (I could be wrong about this).

It is nice to see Elsie being so sympathetic and supportive of Anna.

#265:  Author: RroseSelavyLocation: Oxford, UK PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:10 pm
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It's nice to see Anna and Elsie talking - hopefully Elsie's supportiveness will give Anna the courage to ask for time off.

I think this is a really interesting period of time to set this drabble, it's just at that time when relationships started to change from mistress/maid to employer/employee. Anna having to bend to Jo's every whim and beg for time off rather than having contractual responsibilities and set holidays, but starting to realise that this isn't right, demonstrates that quite nicely.

I wonder how the CS would react to a local student taking on domestic work with them during their holidays or to save up for further education? That might make them think about how they view the 'domestics.' At the moment they're treated like a mixture between children, possessions and machines.

#266:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:26 pm
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Thanks Alison, it will be interesting to see if Anna manages to stand up to Joey and Jack and what happens when she does!

Fascinating as ever Very Happy

Kathryn

#267:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:08 pm
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This is brilliant. And it's really interesting to see more of Anna.

Thanks Alison.

#268:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:34 pm
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What Alison is showing us so very clearly here is that the CS and the Maynards didn't actually think about their staff, just took them for granted and expected them to make superhuman efforts when requitred, without a word of complaint.

#269:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:25 am
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I'm sure Jo would be very upset if Anna was actually ill or anything like that, but as far as work goes she does just seem to take her for granted. I suppose she's never had to do very much for herself, in terms of housework or even in terms of coping with life in general. We see that people like Madge (starting up the school in the first place) and Elisaveta (during the war) are very capable when they have to be, but I can't imagine Jo ever managing without Madge/Jack/Anna/Rosli/Len or whoever else to look after her!

Rosli, who’d only been with the Maynards for a few years and hadn’t grown up amid the day-to-day struggle for financial survival of the Tiernsee in the inter-war years, didn’t have quite as many qualms as her co-worker did about standing up to the Maynards - especially after hearing that row between her mistress and Mrs Bradshaw. She said with some conviction that she was sure she’d be able to look after herself perfectly well if Anna took the holiday that she so badly needed.

Between what Elsie had said, what Rosli had said and what Karen had said, Anna was no longer feeling much guilt at the thought of leaving the Maynards for a week. What she still couldn’t come to terms with was the idea of a confrontation with Joey. Elsie Bradshaw seemed to relish conflict but she didn’t. She had no faith in her ability to stand up to her mistress, whether Joey’s reaction were to shout and demand obedience or to look hurt and insist that she wouldn’t be able to manage without her. It did occur to her to make some excuse about having to go to Briesau because of a family crisis, but that idea seemed intrinsically wrong and she made herself dismiss it.

Eventually, lying awake in bed a few nights later, she decided on a course of action that was far from perfect but seemed to be the best she could come up with. Even then, she wasn’t sure that she’d be able to go through with it if she didn’t act on her decision immediately. Why was she so weak, she wondered miserably. As soon as Jack Maynard had left for the San, she slipped into his study and picked up the telephone there. It wouldn’t hurt the Maynards to pay for her to make an international phone call for once.

Anyway, they’d probably be so angry with her when they found the note she’d written, saying that she’d gone away for the week because she couldn’t go on any longer without a rest and that she hoped they’d understand, that the cost of the phone call wouldn’t make things much worse than they’d be anyway. She waited until the call to the private line at the Mayrhofen hotel came through, then she whispered, “Karen? It’s me, Anna.”

#270:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:16 am
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Interesting what you said, Alison, Joey has always had others that she could rely upon. Even during the most stressful time - the flight from Austria - she wasn't the one with responsibility at any time. I think if Anna were ill she would do everything possible to help, but it just doesn't occur to her that Anna requires time off or any other of the rights we take for granted.

Looking forward to seeing the reaction to Anna's note! Laughing
Thank you.

#271:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:39 am
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I can well understand Anna's reluctance to face Joey, I don't think I'd relish that much myself. I hope Joey and Jack do understand Anna's need for a break!

Thanks Alison Very Happy

#272:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:19 pm
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Well, I'm glad she taking time off, even if she only leaves them a note. It would serve Jo right.

Hm, I bet the first thing Jo does is go over to the school and ask Hilda for a maid from the school staff.

I can just imagine the explosion when Elsie is told about it.

#273:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:25 pm
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If it's the holidays, Jo could always ask for the meals for Freudesheim to be sent over from the school kitchens! Thanks, Alison.

#274:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 4:42 pm
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I very much understand Anna's rationale and behavior, but I wish she had been able to ask Joey up front for it. I think that ultimately she'll have made things harder for herself by leaving without any notice--a note??--and having made an international call that she doesn't intend to pay for.

Granted, Joey has absolutely not been reasonable EVER, and I understand that Anna is frightened of facing her. But this is not going to make things any easier, as Joey will now have some justification to believe that Anna is also unreasonable about taking time off without giving notice and sneaking around, etc. We know that she tried to talk to Joey but couldn't, but all Joey will remember is this sort of irresponsible stuff.

I love these updates!

Chang

#275:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 5:44 pm
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Thing is, Anna did ask Joey - didn't she? And Joey said no, couldn't spare her and anyway they were all going on holiday in the summer anyway - not even considering that it would hardly be a holiday for poor Anna.

Wonder if Joey will try and dismiss Anna...or if she will travel to Austria to confront her in Karen and Rudi's hotel? Shocked

#276:  Author: LyanneLocation: Ipswich, England PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:27 pm
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Oh dear, Elsie's going to get the blame for this! And I bet Anna feels so guilty she doesn't really get the benefit of her break.

#277:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:26 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I wonder how Joey will react when she finds out.

#278:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:09 am
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I'd be astonished if Joey even thought about dismissing Anna, she needs her far too much. She's certainly going to be very shocked; it's a shame Anna felt so unable to face her, though I do understand how she felt, she'd never have got away. And Jo does actually need help, and would even if she weren't a bit feeble - the fruits of seeing herself as an eternal schoolgirl?

Thanks, Alison, this is always really interesting.

#279:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:23 am
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Joey will act all surprized and hurt that Anna had not spoekn to her about this, even though she actually had

#280:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:43 am
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Joey will undoubtedly blame Elsie...

#281:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:48 am
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Thanks for the comments Very Happy . I see no-one expects Joey to set to and actually do some of the housework herself Laughing !

“Sorry, you’ve just missed her,” a male voice said at the other end of the line. “Apparently some of the fruit and vegetables delivered this morning were rotten, so she’s gone to give the man at the greengrocer’s a piece of her mind. The poor fellow won’t know what’s hit him when my lovely wife catches up with him! Is everything all right, Anna?” She wrote to Karen quite often, but she’d never rung before.

“Oh - I’m so sorry for disturbing you,” Anna said anxiously. She’d expected Karen to answer and she was rather in awe of her friend’s well-spoken, university-educated, middle-class husband.

Rudi grimaced at the tone of her voice. It had been a long time since anyone had spoken to him like that. When he’d gone to work at the Kron Prinz Karl straight after graduating from university, he’d insisted on working in every different department of the hotel, to learn exactly how every aspect of it functioned. He’d wanted to be on good terms with everyone there - but he’d been met with a mixture of subservience and suspicion, just because he’d been the owners’ son. Even strong-minded, outspoken Karen had been wary of him and uncomfortable with him at first. That sort of reaction had been the last thing he’d wanted and, young and idealistic, he’d been very distressed by it.

Over the years he’d come to accept that there had to be employers and employees, managers and assistants. In his time he’d been in all those positions. He could empathise with the active hostility that people like the new Chalet School cook had towards their employers – he’d been dismissed from his job in Wien in the mid-‘30s for being a trade unionist and a socialist activist, after all – and he’d tried to understand the attitude he’d found at his parents’ hotel all those years ago; but he hoped very much that the way in which he and Karen ran their hotel didn’t cause anybody who worked there to view them in either of those lights. It made for a much happier environment for everyone if neither those in charge nor those who worked for them were constantly thinking and acting in terms of “them” and “us”.

He dragged himself away from his thoughts. “Not at all. I have to admit that I was just taking a break from a very boring pile of paperwork! I don’t know how long Karen’s going to be, I’m afraid. Is there anything I can help with? You sound upset, if you don’t mind my saying so.”

Anna looked at the clock. She needed to be away before Frau Doktor Maynard got up and found the note she’d left for her, and she couldn’t really wait much longer. “Would it be all right if I come and stay for a bit?” she sobbed. “Today, I mean. I’m sorry to impose but I can’t carry on like this without a break. I’m going to leave Frau Doktor Maynard a note, but if I go to my mother’s or my aunt’s they might say that I’ve done the wrong thing by going away without her permission. Although I suppose you probably think I’m doing the wrong thing as well.”

He certainly wasn’t convinced that she was going about things the best way, but he didn’t say so. She was his wife’s closest friend - and he couldn’t bear to hear anyone sound so upset and exhausted. Moreover, it wasn’t for him to pass judgement on what she’d decided to do or not to do - and who was to say that employers who neither recognised any legal or moral obligations to their staff in terms of working hours or conditions, nor showed them any consideration or respect, were entitled to much along those lines in return?

“If this is definitely what you want to do, ring when you get to Innsbruck, and I’ll come and meet you at the station at Mayrhofen,” he said. “Actually, on second thoughts, send a telegram when you get to Zurich and let us know what time your train’s due into Innsbruck. I’ll collect you from the Bahnhof there. I was going to go into Innsbruck tomorrow afternoon to pick up some supplies for the hotel, but there’s no reason why I can’t go this afternoon instead. No, of course I don’t mind. You sound like you’re shattered: I’m sure you won’t want to be hanging around waiting for trains and carrying your bag any more than you have to. You’ll be very welcome here, Anna. Karen’ll be delighted to see you. Take care now.”

Anna put down the phone, picked up her bag, and headed for the door.

#282:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:04 am
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I like Rudi... SLOC to the core! I wonder what would happen if he met the Maynards, after all he has all the credibility of being a Braun ...

#283:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:52 am
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Nice Rudi *pats the Rudi*

Yes, he is a lovely SLOC.

#284:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:35 am
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Dont you realize "headed for the door" is a cliff?
Anyone could catch her!

#285:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:28 am
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Why don't we all get SLOC's just like Rudi? Where are they all?

Alison, please post more of this today, I want to see Anna get away safely.

#286:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:07 pm
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If anyone finds a Rudi-style SLOC ,send him my way Wink
Alison can we have more please Smile

#287:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:55 pm
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Thanks Alison, I just hope that Anna gets out before anyone catches her!

Kathryn

#288:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:59 pm
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Rudi is so nice. I hope Anna gets away undetected, for she isn't ready for a confrontation with Jo yet. Maybe Rudi has some nice friends he could introduce Anna to!

#289:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:41 pm
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Rudi is lovely - wonder if Anna going to get away without a confrontation? Confused

Thanks Alison. Laughing

#290:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:34 pm
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We'd know if Alison would just post some more of this. Please, Alison.

#291:  Author: La Petite EmLocation: Cheltenham PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:49 pm
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Will Joey hear noise and catch Anna just as she is leaving? Tell us Alison please!!! Very Happy

#292:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:13 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I'm glad that Rudi has agreed that Anna can go and stay with him and Karen.

#293:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:50 am
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Thanks for the comments Very Happy . & it suddenly dawned on me that this was set in the year (1954) that the World Cup finals were held in Switzerland, so I had to be topical and mention that somewhere Laughing !

Anna walked wearily into the sitting room of the private wing of the hotel in Mayrhofen. Rudi took her hat and coat; and Karen, who was sitting at the table writing out the week after next’s staff rota, got up at once and hugged her. “I was starting to get worried,” she said. “I thought you’d’ve been here a while ago.”

“The traffic was bad coming away from Innsbruck,” Rudi said. “You know what it can be like! I’m sorry you were worried, my love. Is everything all right here?”

“Fine,” Karen said. “A couple from Vienna rang up to book for a week at the start of next month. They’re friends of those nice people who were here over Easter weekend and sent us that lovely letter saying how much they’d enjoyed visiting Tyrol. Marta cut her finger whilst she was slicing the bread: it was nothing serious but she got upset so I brought her to sit in here whilst I sorted her finger out. I gave her a cup of coffee and a cream cake and she was all right after a bit. Thomas asked if he could leave early tomorrow because it’s his mother’s birthday so he’s going to her house in Spartz for his tea. I said that that was okay and that we’d cover reception until Peter arrived to do the evening shift. Oh, and he also said to let you know that he’d fixed that leaky tap in one of the first floor bathrooms.

“Your mother rang: she said she wanted to know how I was, which was nice of her; but she did drop half a dozen not very subtle hints about not having seen us for a few weeks. We’d better go over to Briesau some time this coming weekend! Oh, and will you ring the Schloss Wertheim later - they can’t remember which date in July that group from New York wanted to hold their conference there and I wasn’t sure.”

“Is there always so much going on here?” Anna asked as she sat down.

“This is quiet compared to what it was like during the winter sports season!” Karen said. “We closed for a week earlier in the year, as you know, so we had a break then. It’s getting busy again now, though. We’re pretty much booked up for most of June already – although I think Rudi would rather be spending the third week of June in Zurich where Austria are playing their group matches!” Seeing Anna look blank, she added “Football matches. In the World Cup.”

“Oh,” Anna said. “Is that being held in Switzerland? I didn’t know. The Maynards don’t really follow football.”

She realised as she was saying it that she sounded as if her entire life revolved around what the Maynards did do and didn’t do. Which, she supposed, it did. And their lives largely revolved around the School and the San – as did the lives of everyone else in the “British colony” on the Gornetz Platz. It was like a little world of its own, and in many ways it seemed to be wholly set apart from the reality of the mid-1950s. More and more, she was beginning to agree with Elsie Bradshaw’s view that attitudes there, especially as regarded domestic workers such as herself, were completely and utterly out of date.

#294:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:16 am
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Good for Rosa! and I'm already fantasising oh, about 5 different outcomes for this!

#295:  Author: ElleLocation: Peterborough PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:50 am
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The light is beginning to dawn then Anna!

Thanks for the updates.

#296:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:53 am
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Is seeing how Rudi and Karen treat their staff going to encourage Anna to stand up for herself?

#297:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:33 pm
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Thanks Alison, it's nice to see more of Karen and how jolly her life seems to be now. Is Anna going to start a revolution when she gets back to the Platz?

Kathryn

#298:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:11 pm
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I'm sure that Anna was able to see, even in that quick precis that Karen gave to Rudi, just how much they care for their staff - and look after them. Hopefully this will help her to face the maynards when'if she returns.

Thanks Alison.

#299:  Author: MarianneLocation: Lancaster PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:46 pm
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This is brilliant! Thanks Alison Very Happy

#300:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:01 pm
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Will Anna go back?

#301:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:17 pm
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ibarhis wrote:
Will Anna go back?

Hope not (and Rosli leaves too!) Just to see Joeys reaction Very Happy
Thanks Alison

#302:  Author: La Petite EmLocation: Cheltenham PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:20 pm
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I hope Anna really enjoys her time with Karen and Rudi, then she may not want to go back!!! Laughing
Thanks Alison Very Happy

#303:  Author: ElleLocation: Peterborough PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:07 am
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ibarhis wrote:
Will Anna go back?



Not if she has got any sense!

#304:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:20 am
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“It certainly is being held in Switzerland!” Karen said. “Anyway, Anna, we might have a lot of people here at the moment but no-one’ll disturb you if you want some peace and quiet. You look so tired. I don’t suppose Frau Doktor Maynard’s even noticed.”

“Would you mind speaking to her if she rings?” Anna asked. “She’ll guess that I’ll have come to stay with you. She won’t come all the way here whilst she’s “very busy” - as she puts it - but she’s bound to ring; and you’ll be able to handle her better than I will. She’s a bit nervous of you, especially since that ticking off you gave her when she left the School kitchen window open that time.”

She hoped that that last bit hadn’t sounded rude, but both Rudi and Karen laughed. “Not as nervous as the poor greengrocer must be after being torn to pieces this morning,” Rudi said teasingly. “I bet he’ll be terrified every time he has to deliver anything here ever again.”

Karen picked up a newspaper that was lying neatly folded on the table and hit him with it. “I did not tear him to pieces at all! I just told him that I wasn’t putting up with him bringing us rotten fruit and vegetables. It was the second time in a month it’d happened, as well you know!”

I know.” Rudi leaned over and kissed her on the cheek, and Karen looked up at him and put her hand on his shoulder. Anna looked away, feeling suddenly very alone; but it was no more than a few moments before Karen turned back to her.

“You know that we’re both always here to support you,” she said. “I’ll speak to Frau Doktor Maynard if she rings, if that’s what you want … but you’re going to have to speak to her at some point, if you do plan on going back and not staying here. And don’t let her make you feel guilty, or make you feel that she’s done you a great favour that you’re indebted to her for when she says that she’ll let you go back – and she will let you go back; she’ll be only too glad to. The Maynards need to be made to accept that things can’t carry on as they have been doing. Not until you’ve had a good rest, though – and just keep reminding yourself that you’re entitled to one!”

**********************************

“Joey, of course I’m not happy that Anna’s just taken herself off for a week without so much as a by your leave and that Rosli’s saying that she’s not doing everything by herself; but I can’t really do much about it whilst I’m at work, can I? I’m running a Sanatorium here: I’ve got seriously ill patients waiting to be seen: I haven’t got time to start worrying about problems with the domestic staff. Now stop getting so worked up and try to relax. The first thing to do is to ring Hilda and get her to send someone from the School over to give Rosli a hand. With it being half term this week she should be more than able to spare you one or two of their maids in your hour of need!”

#305:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:40 am
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Poor Anna - I am glad Karen is being so supportive.

Laughing at Jack's reaction!


Shocked at the thought of Joey asking for one of the school maids.

This is great!

#306:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:49 am
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Ooh... ouch... I'm definitely waiting for Hilda's reaction...

I'm loving this!

#307:  Author: CathyLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:52 am
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Oh I can't wait to see Elsie's reaction to that request.

[wistful voice]I don't suppose there's any chance of another update today, is there?[/wistful voice]

Cathy

#308:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:11 am
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I spy another Elise-and-Joey confrontation coming up!

Thanks Alison

#309:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:03 am
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Cathy wrote:
Oh I can't wait to see Elsie's reaction to that request.

[wistful voice]I don't suppose there's any chance of another update today, is there?[/wistful voice]


Ditto!

#310:  Author: pimLocation: Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:20 am
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*settles back with the popcorn once more*

Thanks Alison Very Happy

#311:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:30 am
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Anna's so lucky to have Karen and Rudi in her corner. Can't wait to read Elsie's reaction, hehe

Thanks alison!

#312:  Author: ElleLocation: Peterborough PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:44 am
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Can we start chanting for more already please?

#313:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:14 am
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I think we definitely need to chant Very Happy

Thanks Alison, can't wait to see how Joey's request goes down!

Kathryn

#314:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:48 am
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Thanks, Alison. I think Jack needs a lecture from Elsie as well!

#315:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:41 pm
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:making puppy-dog eyes at Alison:

I'm having a bad day over here...I am having trouble making myself get dressed and go into work...please show me Elsie yelling at Joey so that I will have a reason to go to work?

Thanks.

Chang

#316:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:00 pm
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It's not Hilda's reaction we have to look forward to, it's Elsie's.

The only fault I have to find with this drabble is that we don't get enough of it every day.

ETA: Doesn't Jack need an attitude transplant too?


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#317:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:44 pm
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If I were Hilda, I would feel as though I were between the irresistable force and the immovable object.

#318:  Author: LyanneLocation: Ipswich, England PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:00 pm
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So there are no domestic staff at the San, then Jack? I expect the patients scrub the floors themselves & have to wash their own sheets...

#319:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:10 pm
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But it's far easier to send over a couple of adoring maids from the school to clean and polish for their beloved Jo.

#320:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:36 pm
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Jennie wrote:
But it's far easier to send over a couple of adoring maids from the school to clean and polish for their beloved Jo.


I wonder if the staff also read all of Josephine M. Bettany's school stories?

Chang

#321:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:08 pm
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I'm very eager to see Elsie's reaction when she's asked to send one of her staff to work at Freudesheim! I don't think she's going to think it a very good idea! Thanks, Alison.

#322:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:28 pm
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Yessssss, am trying to imagine the reaction here. I'm hoping that Hilda will tell Joey to get lost, I'm also hoping that Elsie gets to hear of it and does the same! Laughing

Thanks Alison.

#323:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:47 pm
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*sits down pinches some popcorn from Pim*
Any more updates tonight Alison?

#324:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:07 am
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Thanks for the comments Very Happy .

“I’ll go and make us all some coffee,” Rudi said. “Then I’ll get back to the office and leave you two ladies to catch up. I’ve got the payroll to do and that’s a job I definitely can’t be late with!”

“I’m so glad you do all that and not me,” Karen said. “I’ve never been very good at arithmetic and I never will be!”

“Better than I am at anything that involves cooking!” he laughed. “I can manage coffee, though. I’ll go and see to it now; then I’ll go and sort the payroll out. Give me a shout if you need me for anything, darling.”

“I don’t even need to ask if you’re happy, do I?” Anna asked as she and Karen drank their coffee. On the train she’d been harbouring all sorts of doubts about whether she might feel uncomfortable staying with Karen now that she was running her own hotel rather than working for the Chalet School, and with Karen’s husband whose upbringing had been so different from theirs. She’d been worrying about nothing, though, she reflected: there was no awkwardness between her and either of them at all.

Karen shook her head. “I suppose some people thought I was taking a big chance, leaving everything behind to come back to Tyrol and marry someone from a totally different background, but … well, every day I say a prayer of thanks for how everything’s turned out. Sometimes I still can’t believe that we’re going to have a baby at the beginning of October, God willing. When we got married I was worried that it might be too late for me for have children … and Rudi said that it wouldn’t matter … and then his face when I told him… .” She wiped a tear from her eye.

“And everyone else here seems to be excited about it as well – I wasn’t sure how people’d react to the idea of having a baby around the place, but they all say that they’re looking forward to it. Luckily we’re quite well out of the way here so no-one but us should be getting woken up in the middle of the night!”

“How will you manage after the baby’s born?” Anna asked. “You’ll have your hands full between the baby and the hotel - although knowing you I’m quite sure you’ll cope!”

“Autumn’s the quietest time of year anyway, so we’re not going to be taking any guests for the first three weeks in October. After that … well, we’ve both got paperwork – the payroll, menu plans, staff rotas and so on - that we can do in our own wing rather than in the main part of the hotel, so one of us should be able to sit in here for most of the time; and we’ll ask people just to come in here if they need us. We’ll see how it goes, but hopefully we’ll be all right. Well, we’ll have to be! And Marie and Andreas always managed when their children were small.”

“I remember,” Anna said. “Of course, Rosa was living in the same house as them, but she didn’t really get as much chance as she’d have liked to help them out. Especially those last few years that we were all at the Tiernsee - there were so many little ones at the Sonnalpe! Let me think … Sybil Russell and John Bettany must both come between Marie’s two eldest in age, and David Russell and Bride Bettany and Primula Venables aren’t that much older, and even with Peggy and Rix Bettany the age gap’s only a few years. You’d think they’d all have been playmates when they were little, but somehow the others never had very much to do with Andreas and Marie’s children. It was the same with the younger ones when they came along.”

“I assume that that was the way the Russells wanted it,” Karen said. “Sir James more than Lady Russell, I would think. It’ll be interesting to see what happens if they end up getting involved in what’s going on at the School - with Mrs Bradshaw I mean. Anyway – enough reminiscing! Would you like something to eat? No, don’t get up: I’ll see to it. You’re here for a rest and I’m going to make sure that you get one!”

#325:  Author: ElleLocation: Peterborough PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:27 am
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Sir James and Lady Russell aren't coming out of this very well either!

Thanks for the update Alison.

#326:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:22 am
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Maybe Karen and Rudi will need some help at the hotel when the baby comes and they could hire an old friend Very Happy

Kathryn

#327:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:29 am
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Thanks Alison, that's interesting, we do never hear of Marie's children! Do we even know their names?

#328:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:40 am
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Mia wrote:
Thanks Alison, that's interesting, we do never hear of Marie's children! Do we even know their names?


I think they're mentioned somewhere in a hb that I haven't got! There is a bit in Exile that refers to Marie's "babies" but it doesn't say anything about them. IIRC Marie got married on the day that David was born, so if she had say 2 children by the time of Exile they'd've been much of an age with all the other kids at Die Rosen. There's a reference later on to Marie's "eldest girl" Gretchen helping her with something but I can't think of any others.

*Shoos away bunny which has just suggested that Gretchen would be just a nice age for David Russell Wink .*

#329:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:05 am
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Alison H wrote:
*Shoos away bunny which has just suggested that Gretchen would be just a nice age for David Russell Wink .*


Oooh, yes! I can just imagine Jem's reaction!

*sends bunny encouraging treats*

#330:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:28 am
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Alison, you keep extending the cliff edge...

#331:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:06 pm
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And we keep teetering on it! Oh, these bunnies, or is Alison doing it deliberately?

#332:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:38 pm
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Thanks Alison - actually, as I suppose it's the Russells that hold the purse strings - they haven't reflected too well with the staff shortages at the School, have they?

#333:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:50 pm
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Hilda and Nell had just sat down for a discussion about likely candidates to succeed Mary-Lou as Head Girl when the phone rang. “Sorry to disturb you,” Rosalie said anxiously. “Joey’s on the phone. She says that she’s got a major problem on her hands and she needs to speak to you immediately.”

“All right, put her through,” Hilda said quickly. She took a deep breath. An awful vision of either Mike or Felix wandering off by themselves was going through her mind, and she willed herself to stay strong. “Joey, it’s Hilda. What is it, my dear? Is someone ill? She’s done what? Gone where? Well, I suppose … Joey, do calm down. Well, it’s not just that easy. Yes, of course I want to help. Yes, I know you sent Anna over here when … all right, don’t get upset. I’ll see what I can do. Bye, Joey.”

“May I ask what the matter is?” Rosalie, who’d joined Nell and Hilda in the study, asked worriedly. “Is there anything I can do to help?”

“The matter is that Anna’s gone off on holiday for the week. I must say I can’t remember the last time Anna had so much as a few days off, so I don’t wonder she feels in need of a holiday; but instead of agreeing it with Joey she’s just gone. Rosli’s saying she can’t or won’t do everything by herself, and Joey says she can’t manage. By the way, she doesn’t want anyone else knowing exactly what's happened – if we have to mention it to anyone, we’re to say that Anna’s had to go home for a week because of a family problem. What Joey wants is for us to send one of our maids over there to help out.”

#334:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:56 pm
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finally 2 updates on one day!
So what will elsie say?
Hilda knows there is a big problem to ask her

#335:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:58 pm
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Very disappointed in Hilda there - she was rather a wimp. Evil or Very Mad

Thanks for the update Alison. Laughing

#336:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:08 pm
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But what will Elsie say? I don't see her being a wimp! Thanks, Alison.

#337:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:02 pm
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I'm not sure whether Hilda is being a wimp or not at this stage... She hasn't actually agreed to send a maid over, just to "see what she can do" and she has stated what Joey wants! I think there could be more to come.

#338:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:11 pm
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*drags beanbag along to the new cliff edge and sits down waiting for the fireworks*
Hilda is stuck between a rock and a hard place, who should she upset?
Either way will be interesting Very Happy
Thanks Alison-you were up early to post for us today!

#339:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:20 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I wonder what Hilda, Nell and Rosalie will decide to do.

#340:  Author: Caroline58Location: St Albans PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:34 pm
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Oh no! I'm about to go on holiday for a few days and won't have internet access! How will I survive?

#341:  Author: CathyLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:41 pm
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It really is outrageous of Joey even to think she can ask. The maids at the school applied for jobs at the school and that's what they are paid to do. Is Joey going to pay them for their time or offer to recompense the school?

Hopes Elsie puts a stop to it. Also hopes Anna gets a better offer while she's on holiday.

Thanks for the updates!

#342:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:51 pm
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Hilda hasn't actually agreed to send one of the maids - she knows only too well that there's a problem. Perhaps she'll have a better idea to help Joey out?? No idea what, though! She does feel some obligation, as Jo sent Anna to help the school. Waiting eagerly to see what does happen!

#343:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:37 am
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The easiest thing for Hilda to do here would be to punt to Elsie: "Oh, Joey, *I* would help you, but we've only just got the domestic staff settled down again, and I'm afraid Elsie will throw a fit." Of course, Joey would be furious that Hilda was even considering Elsie, but at least it will get us one step closer to the inevitable Joey-Elsie throwdown that I want to see Very Happy .


Chang

#344:  Author: CathyLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:20 am
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Jo hasn't got a chance of covering up -- Elsie already knows all about it and I'm sure won't hesitate in mentioning it. And she's far from feeling any obligation to Jo, since she was furious about Anna being sent into her kitchen.

Can't wait to see what happens next. I'm really getting drawn into this -- sure sign of a great drabble.

#345:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:54 am
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Thanks for the comments. I've always thought it must have been very difficult for Hilda having her boss's sister living next door and always getting involved in CS business - although to be fair sometimes Hilda consulted Joey first, and there are a few references to Freudesheim being considered pretty much part of the School.

“Oh I can just see Mrs Bradshaw’s face when she hears that!” Rosalie said.

“That was my first thought as well … and that worries me, because I shouldn’t be letting concerns about what she might do affect my decisions.” Hilda shook her head. “I wouldn’t have thought twice about agreeing a few months ago, but now … well, I can already hear Mrs Bradshaw’s voice saying that helping out if someone’s ill or there’s an emergency’s one thing, but that her staff aren’t here to be farmed out to people who just don’t think they should have to look after their own homes.” She laughed despite herself. “Don’t tell Joey I said that! I’m only saying what I can imagine Mrs Bradshaw saying!”

“Joey really doesn’t like her,” Rosalie said. “She probably thinks she’s the one who’s encouraged Anna to go off like this in the first place.”

“I thought she might have said something along those lines, but she didn’t. I don’t think she’s even thought about why Anna’s gone – just that she has done.” She looked at Nell and then at Rosalie. “Even apart from the issue of Mrs Bradshaw’s reaction, bear in mind that not all the domestic staff are here this week and that they have a lot to get through before everyone gets back. It’s only Monday now: being one down for the entire week’ll make a big difference to their workload.”

“I hate to say it, but Joey never was much good at coping with things,” Nell remarked. “I remember that during that terrible journey from Tyrol to Switzerland I felt guilty about not offering more support to the younger girls, but I was in such pain from my foot that it was all I could do to keep moving. Joey was the eldest of all the girls there and I was looking to her to help keep the others going; but all she seemed able to do was either cling to Jack or get hysterical. Then she collapsed after the journey from Guernsey to England, and Frieda and I were left quite literally holding the babies. And after that dreadful car accident you and I were in, Hilda, she wrote begging me to come back so that Miss Bubb could be told to leave, even though she knew that I was still far from well. The way she’s reacted to this really doesn’t surprise me at all.”

“I suppose she’s never had to take much responsibility for anything,” Rosalie said. “When we were children in Taverton she was very prone to colds and chest infections, and so her sister was always so worried about her that she practically wrapped her in cotton wool. And Jack gives her a sedative every time she’s upset about anything! Still, she is how she is; and she sounded as if she’d got herself worked up into quite a state.”

“That’s what’s worrying me,” Hilda said. “She’s quite capable of making herself ill over this, and … well, in her condition, especially at this late stage, that’s something to be avoided at all costs. I also have a horrible feeling that, if I say that we can’t spare anyone, she’ll want Len to come back from Zermatt. Between ourselves, things haven’t been quite right between the triplets lately – that’s why Mary-Lou’s gone with the Fifth Forms, to keep an eye on the situation – and the last thing Len needs is to be hauled back here to help at Freudesheim. I can’t say that I’m entirely happy about it, but I think that under the circumstances I’d better do as Joey asks and send one of the maids over there at once.”

#346:  Author: Caroline OSullivanLocation: Reading, Berkshire, UK PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:01 am
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Thanks Alison Very Happy I'm sure Elsie will have made contingency plans - she must have guessed that the school would be asked to send over a maid or two.

I have a horrible feeling that Anna might be off longer than a week. It sounds horribly like she could be heading for a breakdown/liable to catch any passing lurgy as she's so exhausted (((Anna)))

#347:  Author: AllyLocation: John Bettany's Cabin! PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:08 am
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Insteresting to see the thought process behind the decision, but still, I can't wait for Elsie's reaction! Thanks Alison Very Happy

#348:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:09 am
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I think that Hilda and Nell were genuinely friendly with Jo and did not resent her living nearby and being involved in school affairs at all. I can't imagine them thinking of her as the boss' sister and someone who they had to keep on the good side of. I do think she's been rather mollycoddled all her life, first by Madge and now by Jack, but to be honest, she'll more than have her hands full looking after her children and the house and being pregnant. If she can wangle someone to help out, then good for her!

Thanks, Alison, it's always a pleasure to read this.

#349:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:24 am
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Good for Hilda... she has repaid my trust in her. A reasoned discussion of pros and cons....

Maybe she will go further and ask Elsie for help rather than telling her what to do and putting her back up!

#350:  Author: EilidhLocation: Macclesfield PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:09 am
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Thanks Alison. It's all very well Hilda making plans but will Elsie agree?

#351:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 11:15 am
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I'm sorry, but Jo has it far too easily all the time. She has a nanny for her young children, so why can't she do the cooking? And the dusting and bed-making. Other women have to do it, those with large families have to learn to cope. The moral is, I suppose, don't have more children than you can manage by yourself.

#352:  Author: LizBLocation: Oxon, England PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:34 pm
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Just caught up on masses of this - Thanks Alison, I'm loving it!

*wondering if a maid will be sent over, and if they will have been infected with Elsie's militant manner*

Or perhaps Elsie will go herself?

#353:  Author: JustJenLocation: sitting on the steps PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:40 pm
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I have to agree witrh Jennie as well. Joey's never had to deal with the "real" world. She's always had some sort of buffer in the form of Dick, Madge and JAck, to protect her from the harsh realities of life.
I wonder if she would have been so gung-ho to have all those children and wards if they had to scrap around for money like the rest of us.

Hmmm I don't see why the school as to come to her rescue. Why can't she hire someone, instead of stealing a school maid, whom I bet won't be happy about working/slaving for Joey?

#354:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:58 pm
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If we all snivel and whinge a lot, do you think Alison H will write a lot more of this drabble this weekend? Oh, and post it, of course.

#355:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:38 pm
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Thanks, Alison. It was interesting to see what Hilda, Nell and Rosalie really thought of Joey.

#356:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:15 pm
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Thank you Alison, fabulous as ever Very Happy

Kathryn

#357:  Author: DramaPrefect PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:31 pm
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Just read this whole thing and it's cracking! Very Happy I love the whole idea, and I'm really looking forward to reading the rest of it (hint hint) *throws some bunny treats to the fluffy critters*

#358:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:13 pm
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No, no, no, no! Wrong decision Hilda!

I commend her for thinking about Joey herself and for thinking about Len and the others - but where's your empathy when it comes to the domestic staff? Knowing that there are numerous tensions already this is going to make things so much worse. The domestic staff are supposed to be off duty themselves, or they have their own work to do. Moving one across to a place where they are likely to have to work without breaks, without help and without thanks does not seem the right thing to do.

If Hilda and the others are that worried about Joey they should go over there and help out themselves - if they are so friendly.

Elsie Bradshaw will not like this - and I don't blame her.

(Very disappointed with Hilda)

Thanks Alison.

#359:  Author: LyanneLocation: Ipswich, England PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 11:00 pm
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No, Hilda, you should find out what help Joey specifically needs. Then work out how you can help her - you could send over meals, as already said, the all staff will need to eat so making extra for Freudishem wouldn't really make much difference. They could send the washing to the San. That would take care of the bulk of the heavy work, whichever children are still at home can help sweep the floors.

#360:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:34 am
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“How come Anna’s had to go home?” Mechtilde asked as she followed Rosli into Freudesheim’s kitchen. “Fraulein Annersley just said that it was because of a family problem. No-one’s ill, I hope?”

“Family problem! Is that what Frau Doktor Maynard’s been saying? Anna’s gone to stay with Karen for a week, and she went without permission because the Maynards refused to give her any time off – and I’ll be taking a week off myself before long, with or without permission. Mrs Bradshaw says that Anna and I are entitled to holidays, and paid holidays at that; and Karen’s husband says the same.”

“She just went? Good for Anna! I wish I’d seen Frau Doktor Maynard’s face when she found out. What did she do? Did she go mad? She’s not going to give Anna the sack, is she?”

“I wouldn’t have thought so,” Rosli said. “She didn’t really go mad as such. She started weeping and wailing and saying that she couldn’t believe Anna would do this to her – as if Anna had gone away just to inconvenience her! Then she told me that I’d have to cope on my own for a week, and I said that there was no way I was going to watch four young children and do everything else. She didn’t like that, but I wasn’t going to give in. Then she got upset and started saying that she wished her sister lived nearer. Then she rang the Herr Doktor at the San, and all he said – which was typical of him, because he does nothing to help, even whilst she's expecting! – was that she should ring Fraulein Annersley and ask her if one of you could come over.

“It was absolutely pathetic. She’s a grown woman, in her mid-thirties, a famous author - and yet she just couldn’t cope with the idea of not having all her cooking and cleaning and so on done for her for a week! I know she does her writing, but she always seems to have time to go over to sit in the School staff room or invite people round here for afternoon tea. How does she think people like my mum or your mum manage?”

“Mrs Bradshaw always says that we should remember that the School’d never cope without us,” Mechtilde said thoughtfully. “I’ve never really taken it that seriously before, but … well, could you imagine Fraulein Burnett doing everyone’s laundry, or Fraulein de Lachennais scrubbing the floors?” She giggled. “Hey, imagine Matron Lloyd having to clean the bathrooms, in her pristine white uniform!”

They both burst out laughing. “It’s true, though,” Mechtilde added. “They really would be lost without us – and you’d certainly never know it from the attitude most of them have towards us!”

“What did Mrs Bradshaw have to say about you coming over to Freudesheim?” Rosli asked. “I bet she wasn’t very pleased. I’m really sorry you’ve got landed with having to come over here, by the way: I suppose either Anna or I should’ve guessed that the Maynards’d expect someone else to come and help with the work rather than doing it themselves.”

“Oh don’t apologise - it’s not your fault. I must say it’s pretty insulting being lent out like I’m a piece of crockery or a sweeping brush or something, though - and it means that they’re going to be short-staffed at the School all week. Mrs Bradshaw didn’t actually say that much. I was quite surprised: I thought she’d hit the roof. What she did say was that actions spoke louder than words and maybe there’d been enough talking. I’m not quite sure what she was getting at, but I did get the impression that she was planning something specific. She was certainly very annoyed.”

#361:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:43 am
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Now I'm longing to see what Elsie's planning. And now that she's had the chance to influence the domestic staff with some of her ideas, I can't see Mechtilde working all hours of the day as Anna would have done. And good for Rosli, standing up for herself. This is just brilliant, thanks, Alison.

#362:  Author: jenniferLocation: Taiwan PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:11 am
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Perhaps just the calm explanation that, of course, with one of their staff missing, they couldn't get all the planned work done.

Or a bill for Mechtilde's services sent to the Maynards...

#363:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:26 am
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I love the way we see things tangentially...

#364:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 10:10 am
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Thanks Alison, I bet Elsie has something good up her sleeve. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens!

Thank you Very Happy

Kathryn

#365:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 12:18 pm
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Work to rule?

Strike?

It seems possibly.

The maids are not very impressed with either Joey or Jack, are they? Laughing

Thanks Alison.

#366:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 1:13 pm
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Poor Mechtilde, having to go over there. I'm longing to find out what Elsie has planned.

#367:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:18 pm
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jennifer wrote:
.

Or a bill for Mechtilde's services sent to the Maynards...


I'd LOVE to see this.

Chang

#368:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:35 pm
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Well, why not? If Jo wants the work done, she ought to pay for it.

#369:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:46 pm
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Yes, but not Elsie's decision to make!

#370:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:35 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I am looking forward to seeing what Elsie is planning.

#371:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:09 pm
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STRIKE, STRIKE, STRIKE Very Happy
Thanks Alison

#372:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:29 pm
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I am beginning, reluctantly, to feel sorry for Joey (ducks to avoid missiles). There is no way she could cope with all that without help, after all, but she could certainly have paid for a replacement.

I think it's the assumption of ownership that rankles most with me - Mechtilde being 'lent out'. The woman who helps with my cleaning does likewise for a friend of mine. Friend was away recently, and just passed our cleaner on to someone else who needed something done with a casual 'oh, she can have X, I don't need her'! I was a mite horrified. Shocked

#373:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:20 am
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I'm having mixed feelings about Joey. Jack is no help whatsoever - OK, he has a very responsible job, and most men of his generation would see housework as purely women's work, but could he not help out with the kids a bit more, or at least take Bruno for a walk sometimes?!! & they've got a lot of kids and a large house - but, on the other hand, that was their choice. I think there's a problem with expectations clashing with post-war reality around this time - like when we're told that Theodora's mum had to cope with only a nursemaid instead of having several nannies, and that the Grantleys'd struggled for money because they'd had to pay the boys' school fees - obviously the boys just had to go to public school! Anyway, enough waffle Embarassed Laughing !

This was a nightmare, Joey thought. Mechtilde had insisted that she was only working for so many hours at a time without a break and that she was only working for seven hours a day in total, and Rosli had said that if Mechtilde was sticking to Mrs Bradshaw’s working hours then she was doing the same. It’d never used to be like this. Back in Tyrol, before the war, the Pfeifen girls had always been only too pleased to work for people who treated them with politeness and kindness, and even back in her early childhood in Taverton girls in service would never have behaved like this. What had changed; and when had it changed, and why? She wished that Madge were here. Madge would know what to do.

Then again, life was much easier for Madge. Madge had Marie, Andreas and Rosa all working for her, and only two children at home. Frieda only had one maid, admittedly - but Frieda had only four children in total, and an apartment that probably wasn’t a third the size of Freudesheim. And neither Madge nor Frieda worked. She herself might not work all the time; but she still aimed to write two books a year, which was quite an undertaking. Her books were popular and she enjoyed writing them - and she and Jack would certainly struggle without the money that they brought in.

That was the problem, of course. Money. Thirty years ago a big family with a big house would have had a cook, a housekeeper, a maid, a nanny and maybe a gardener/ odd-job man as well. Now she and Jack couldn’t even afford to take on another “mother’s help” to replace Maria. They didn’t have to pay school fees for the girls, obviously; but the prep school that Steve and Charles were at wasn’t cheap, and once they were at public school the fees would be even higher – by which time she and Jack’d be having to find the money for prep school fees for Mike and Felix as well. It wasn’t easy supporting so many children. And a house like Freudesheim wasn’t cheap to run, especially with the prices of things in Switzerland; and, although Herr Helfen had charged them a fair price, it had still cost them plenty to buy Die Blumen.

So she only had Anna and Rosli – and at the moment she didn’t even have Anna. It really was strange, Anna not being here. Anna had been with them for so many years that she was almost like part of the furniture. She couldn’t imagine life without her – especially if the alternative would be someone spouting all this seven hours a day and taking breaks business that Mrs Bradshaw seemed to have instilled into Mechtilde.

And she supposed she could understand that Anna was missing her family and Karen – she missed Madge and Dick, after all, and it had been wonderful having that get- together with Frieda and Marie and Simone the previous year - even if that was no excuse for just going off like that. So she wouldn’t give Anna the telling-off that she deserved. She’d tell her that, as long as she got herself back here as soon as possible, they’d say no more about it.

Anna must have gone either to her parents’ home or to Karen’s: there wasn’t really anywhere else that she could have gone. Probably to Karen’s: she certainly wrote to her often enough. She looked at the clock, trying to work out what time Anna would be likely to arrive in Mayrhofen. She’d give it another couple of hours. Then she’d ring up and speak to her. Then Anna would come back; and then everything would return to normal.

#374:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:57 am
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Don't think so, Joey! Yes, I can understand why she's so confused and can sympathise to a certain extent. But the way she's thinking Anna will return to doing exactly as she had before? I feel, once she's seen the far more liberal ways at Karen and Rudi's hotel, that will not happen.

Well done Mechtilde and Rosa.

As for Madge - she needs to see what's happening at the School.

Thanks Alison.

#375:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:05 am
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Thank you Alison, I'm feeling a little more sympathetic towards Joey now!

Kathryn

#376:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:52 pm
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I feel absolutely no sympathy for Jo. She is living in a time-warp and needs to bring herself up-to-date about living and working conditions. OK, so she's starting to worry about money for the boy's education, but that's no reason for her to think that Anna does not need any time off or to take a holiday. And there's still no reason why she can't take over the cooking, bed-making and dusting for a week.

If you will insist on outdoing everyone you know on the fertility front, you must accept that you'll have to put some effort into living.

I think she'll get a shock when she phones Anna. And I do hope Anna will take as much holiday as she wants.

#377:  Author: Joan the DwarfLocation: Er, where am I? PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:02 pm
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Heeheehee... I think Joey's going to have some grovelling to do!

(And if they're that short of money then perhaps they could sell one of the THREE houses that they own at this moment in time!)

Zilch sympathy here. And Hilda was a wimp.

#378:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:14 pm
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Joan the Dwarf wrote:
And Hilda was a wimp.


Hate to say this - but yes she was. Shocked

#379:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:27 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I have to admit I do have some sympathy for Joey.

#380:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:36 pm
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I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who suddenly finds that ways of doing things which have worked for years must change, whether for financial reasons or any others.

Yes I do have sympathy for Joey, no I don't think she is right, but neither do I think I would necessarily do better in her circumstances.

#381:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:12 pm
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I know Jo is expecting twins and it's her seventh pregnancy, but Jo is not exactly a tiny, helpless waif. She's accustomed to walking for miles, plays tennis with her daughters, swims, and she's a big strong woman, 5 feet nine inches tall, so she's not exactly going to fall over if she has to do her own dusting and bedmaking for a week. The problem with the housework lies in her mind, 'I'm not going to sink to doing my own work, not if I can help it, I'm entitled to submissive household help.' not in her physique. And frankly, the way everyone cossets her is shameful. She's always boasting that she's a good Chalet Girl and ready for anything, so why isn't she ready for this?

#382:  Author: Ruth BLocation: Oxford, UK PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:27 pm
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Looking forward to Joey's conversation with whoever picks up the phone!!

#383:  Author: ChangnoiLocation: New Mexico, USA PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:32 pm
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I think the main problem is this all-or-nothing attitude. Joey had two workers who were each working about one hundred hours a week, if you consider what they were doing and how often. One has left. Joey then expects the other to work two hundred hours a week in return, which I don't think is possible given the number of hours in a week. And, presumably, if Joey had continued to press the issue, Rosli would have left, too. You don't work for a boss who is clearly insane.

So instead, without having to lift a finger, really, Joey gets another worker. The problem is now Rosli and Mechtilde combined will work only 100 hours a week, unless they don't work Sundays...I don't know, these calculations are just guesses.

So here, my friends, we have a compromise! A compromise that was fairly painless for Joey, in which she still gets half of the work that she wants done. Her half of the compromise needs to be prioritizing which tasks are more important. That parquet floor in the Saal or wherever? How often does it really need to be cleaned? Can Joey spend some time with the younger kids when they're in the house? I know she is heavily pregnant; she needed take them on four mile walks along the Platz, but just looking after them while they're at home? Yes, it's stressful, but it may not be physically too much for her. This is what Joey needs to do.

Instead, she wonders why people are not beating down her door to have the opportunity to slave away for her.


The "no sympathy for Joey" camp,
Chang

#384:  Author: LyanneLocation: Ipswich, England PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:50 pm
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They shouldn't have bought Die Blumen if they couldn't afford to run it & their other household. (I think they have sold Pretty Maids by now?)

#385:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:59 pm
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No, they gave it away to the National Trust. I think they sold Plas Gwyn when they bought Die Blumen.

#386:  Author: JustJenLocation: sitting on the steps PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:48 pm
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So why they sell Die Blumen if they can't afford the boys school fees? The Maynards only use it in the summer anyways. Kinda pointless having a house if you're going to use a few weeks a year.

#387:  Author: jenniferLocation: Taiwan PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:54 am
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Jennie wrote:
And frankly, the way everyone cossets her is shameful. She's always boasting that she's a good Chalet Girl and ready for anything, so why isn't she ready for this?


As a girl, she was delicate and high strung, and was coddled because she got ill easy and didn't have the self discipline to monitor her own behavior. This just carried over, first to Jem and then to Jack, who is more careful of her than of their children.

Part of the problem is her volatile temperment. She gets worked up very easily, getting over-excited and hyper when things are going well, and strung out and fainting/ill in bed when things are going badly. She's always had someone come and look after her (and the house, and the children, and the dog) when she over excites herself. It's quite possibly an ingrained part of her personality, but she's never had to learn the coping skills to go with it. She's managed eleven children, a huge house, a badly trained dog, perpetual meddling in the school and a successful writing career, but only by depending on other people to work themselves silly to support her and take care of many of the things she boasts of.

I agree that she needs to prioritise. Her household help should not be expected to help out with the school, either with labour or food. She probably needs to cut out the school parties with the masses of food and drink and messing up the house, and not take in long term house guests in unused wings of the house. They could scale the food back to simpler dishes, and cut back on some of the less urgent housekeeping (the floors get swept but not waxed as often, for example).

Jack and Joey would need to spend more time minding the children while Anna and Rosa have time off. They wouldn't get relaxing evenings in their Salon and as many visits to the school, and Joey may have to rearrange her writing schedule to work more when the children are napping or in bed, but that's the price of having eleven children.

If they're short on cash, they could sell Die Blumen (or rent it out as a timeshare for the rest of the year)

#388:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:14 am
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I like the timeshare idea Smile

#389:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:14 am
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Thanks for the comments! It does seem weird to me that they didn't decide to sell Die Blumen a few years later when Joey was going on (at Hilda) about how much it cost to support their family. I hope I'm not making Joey seem too bad, but she never seemed to take much responsibility for anything. For example, when she was about to leave School, she had no real plans other than to sit around at Die Rosen, presumably being supported financially by Jem - she wasn't taking her writing seriously at that point - and she even moaned about how boring it'd be! What a contrast to Simone who said that she wanted to get a job and earn money to help her parents out! Maybe it was Madge and Jack's fault for being overprotective!

Instead of speaking to Anna, Joey found herself being put through to a furious Karen, who told her bluntly that Anna was there but didn’t want to talk to her. Before Joey had chance to respond, Karen launched into an angry tirade about how Anna was in bed, exhausted, and the Maynards should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for letting – or, rather, making - her work herself into such a state.

“Well, she should have said if she wasn’t feeling well,” Joey muttered. “She does work for a doctor, after all.”

“It’s nothing to do with not feeling well!” Karen snapped. “The only reason she’s exhausted is that you and your family expect her and Rosli to do far too much, and only let either of them have so much as a weekend off if it suits you! I bet you’ve got someone from the School over to cover for her, haven’t you? You have? I knew it! Because you couldn’t imagine doing all that work yourself. Now think how Anna feels. She’s said that she’ll be going back on Saturday afternoon, and if you ask me you’re lucky that she’s coming back at all. Goodbye!” She slammed the phone down.

Karen had always been outspoken, but Joey had never heard her speak quite like that before. For a moment she felt slightly embarrassed that Karen had guessed that she’d have asked Hilda to send one of the School maids over to help Rosli. Then again, she thought, if one of the mistresses at the School had to miss a lesson for some reason then another mistress had to cover for them. The work still had to be done if the person who was meant to do it was ill or otherwise unavailable. It happened often enough, especially with Joan Bertram and her bilious attacks. That was the same thing. Wasn’t it?

Suddenly she found herself trying to think when Anna had ever said that she couldn’t work because she was ill. Or Rosli, for that matter. Rarely, if ever. She was beginning to feel upset now. Karen wasn’t the sort of person to exaggerate, and Anna certainly wasn’t the sort of person to take to her bed at this time of day for no reason. Maybe Anna really had been overdoing it. Could she imagine doing all that work herself? No; but then she was an author, not a maid. There was a lot to do at Freudesheim, though. Hadn’t she just been thinking that there was a lot of work here to manage with just two members of staff?

Maybe she’d been wrong not to agree to let Anna have a week off. By the sounds of it, her maid genuinely was in need of a rest, and she certainly wouldn’t want poor Anna to end up being ill. She could manage with Rosli and Mechtilde until Saturday, even if they did insist on only working seven hours a day. For a few days she could do the mending herself, and maybe a bit of cooking as well, as she’d done when she’d first been married. And it wasn’t as if she was receiving many visitors or going out much at the moment, so she could keep an eye on Cecil.

Yes - it would be far better if Anna had this week off, and then came back refreshed ready for when the new baby arrived. She’d ring the hotel again in the morning, and tell Anna that she’d decided to let her stay there until Saturday as she wanted.

#390:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:03 am
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I think your Joey is very realistic especially the way here that she is beginning to realise that maybe they hadn't been that fair to Anna.

Thanks Alison Very Happy

Kathryn

#391:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:05 am
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How very gracious of her. I don't think Joey is getting this at all....

#392:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:10 am
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"Let her stay?" I don't think it's up to you Joey - and if you phone and say that you're going to make things worse - especially if you speak with Karen again. At least you are now taking on a few things - but I get the impression that it's only a temporary thing until Anna returns, then you will expect her to take over from where she left off, possibly even feeling ever so grateful that the Frau Doktor Maynard hasn't disciplined you for daring to be ill.

Agree that it probably is a combination of her temperament and the way all the adults have cosseted her that's to blame for Joey's outlook now - but she is supposed to be someone with great empathic powers, where are they? Or doesn't she think that her maids are worthy?

Thanks Alison. Laughing

#393:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 10:15 am
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Thanks, Alison. Isn't Jo just so gracious and condescending? I do hope that Elsie gets someone up from the Ministry of Labour in the capital to examine working practices at the CS. And at Freudesheim.

#394:  Author: Joan the DwarfLocation: Er, where am I? PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 10:47 am
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Or maybe it's time for a Gornetz branch of the International Workers of the World union.

Oh my, that would be fun. I'm sure Mrs Bradshaw has plenty of union contacts!

Hilda's face when presented with a union-negotiated contract...

Oh, please please please!

#395:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:16 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I'm glad that what others are saying is starting to get through to Joey.

#396:  Author: nikkieLocation: Cumbria PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:03 pm
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Joan the Dwarf wrote:
Hilda's face when presented with a union-negotiated contract...

Oh, please please please!


Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeee!
Very Happy

#397:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:01 pm
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The sad thing is that nothing will ever really get through to Jo until she has to do all the work herself.

I'm also wondering what Elsie is planning, she's keeping awfully quiet over at the school.

#398:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:17 pm
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At least Jo has moved her thinking a little. Of course she may need to move it further!

#399:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:04 am
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Part of the problem is cultural again. In th early Chalet years, English girls of a certain class were expected to wait around at home, arranging flowers, helping with the little ones, and waiting to be rescued by marriage. It wasn't that strange an expectation for Jo - and she's horrified by it, but doesn't know what the alternative is.

Also, schools (of any sort, but it must be particularly true of boarding schools) don't function like businesses. Staff routinely do much more than they're contracted to, and someone who sticks to the letter of their entitlement is a right royal pain in the posterior. You can't just leave kids unsupervised, someone has to do it - I guess it's the same with nursing, anything where vulnerable people are involved. The domestic staff aren't involved in the same way, of course, but they are an integral part of the whole. All very complex.

Anyway, I hope Joey doesn't swan in 'letting' Anna stay, or she might never see her again!

#400:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:49 am
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This is a long post to finish off this bit with Joey - back to Elsie after this! Thanks for the comments Very Happy .

It was late on Tuesday morning when Joey rang the Mayrhofen hotel again. This time, she was put through to Karen’s husband. “Anna’s gone over to Briesau to see her family, and my wife is very busy preparing Mittagessen, so neither of them are available at present,” he said, in perfect English with a slight American accent. “I would point out that Anna has asked that we don’t put any telephone calls from you through to her, though.”

“She can’t just refuse to speak to me!” Joey said exasperatedly. “I assume you’re aware that she’s there without my permission: she just took herself off and only told me she’d gone by way of a note! Imagine how you’d feel if one of your staff did that, Herr Braun.” She still couldn’t get used to the idea that dear old Herr Braun’s son was married to the School’s former cook, but maybe he’d be more inclined to see her point of view than Karen had been. “I’m sure you wouldn’t be at all happy.”

“Certainly under ordinary circumstances I wouldn’t expect anyone to take time off for a holiday without speaking to my wife or myself about it first, Mrs Maynard. However, if they did, I would assume that there was a very good reason for it – because everyone here has a paid annual holiday entitlement and I can’t say that there have ever been any problems about it. I understand that there is no agreement between you and Anna about time off, and that you refused her a week’s holiday when she asked.”

“It’s a totally different scenario!” Joey said. “You’re running a hotel. I’m talking about my own home. Anna lives with us. She comes on holiday with us. She’s practically one of the family. We’re not talking about a shop or a factory, or a hotel for that matter – and from what your father told me about you when I was staying at the Kron Prinz Karl with my friends and a group from the School last summer, you and Karen run your hotel in a rather …ah, avant-garde manner anyway. Now, with all due respect, I do need to speak to Anna. Will you tell me when she’s likely to be back, please?”

“I realise that you wish to speak to Anna,” he said quietly. “And you and she obviously have a great deal to discuss; but she has said quite categorically that she doesn’t wish to take any calls from you whilst she’s here. I would ask you to understand that she’s very tired, and not to distress her by continuing to ring here. I appreciate that you’re unhappy that she left without agreeing it with you first; but surely you must accept that she’s entitled to some time off. That isn’t “avant-garde” or even just a question of what I think to be morally right - it’s a matter of what’s set down in law.”

“Well, if you’re so concerned about Anna having time off then you’ll be pleased to know that I’ve decided that I am going to let her stay until Saturday, and if she really won’t come to the phone then I suppose I’d better ask you to pass the message on to her. And I hope she appreciates it - a lot of people would tell her not to bother coming back after she’d just gone AWOL like that.”

“A lot of people wouldn’t come back to a situation which seems to entail so much work and so little rest,” he said equably. “There are plenty of other jobs to be had, after all, Mrs Maynard - especially in a prosperous country such as Switzerland.”

“Now you’re being ridiculous,” Joey said crossly. “She couldn’t just leave! She’d have to give notice, apart from anything else.”

“When she’s – what was it, practically one of your family? Surely not! You can’t have it both ways, Mrs Maynard. How can you expect someone to give notice before leaving and not to take holidays without your prior consent when you don’t recognise any claim to employment rights on their part? When there’s no agreement or even informal understanding between you and them as to the terms under which they work for you?

“Far be it from me to tell you how to run your own home, but the days when domestic employees were largely expected to submit to whatever conditions their “masters” or “mistresses” chose to impose on them are gone, thank God. And, whilst I’m sure that you haven’t intentionally been placing an unacceptably heavy burden on Anna, or on Rosli, please believe me when I tell you that it sounds to me as if that’s exactly what’s been happening. Times change, Mrs Maynard – and if your household doesn’t change too then you may well find yourself without both your employees permanently, and with no-one willing to take their places.

“I shall of course tell Anna what you’ve said, but now I must ask you to excuse me. I’ve got a great deal of work to do. Goodbye, Mrs Maynard. And please rest assured that Anna will be welcome to return here any time she likes.”

#401:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:43 am
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Hehe. That told Joey!

#402:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:53 am
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I think that the case has been put forward beautifully to Joey. She can't have it both ways and it is time she and the school realise that times have changed!

#403:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:02 am
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How 'nice' that Joey spoke to Rudi and not Karen. Whether she thinks he is avant garde or not she does at least accept him as an "equal".

I wonder what changes Joey will have to make in order that Anna will return?

#404:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:23 am
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Well, that told Jo, didn't it.

#405:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:59 am
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as joey says, "you can put that in your pipe and smoke it"
Will she really think about what he said?

#406:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:47 pm
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Well done Rudi - maybe Joey will actually listen to what he's said?

Thanks Alison.

#407:  Author: JennieLocation: Cambridgeshire PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:47 pm
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I doubt it, she'll work herself into hysterics first, then have to be put to bed with a dose, rather than admit that she's not the kindest, most generous of employers.

#408:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:05 pm
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Gosh I'd missed loads of this! Thanks Alison - very interesting!

#409:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:43 pm
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Rudi didn't mince his words there, did her, and yet he was perfectly polite. Good for him. Thanks, Alison.

#410:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:18 pm
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That was brilliant, thanks Alison Very Happy

Kathryn

#411:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 5:50 pm
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Fantastic!

So many developments since I last checked Very Happy

Thank you Alison

#412:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:54 pm
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Very reasoned and reasonable response from Rudi there. I hope it will help Jo to sort things out properly with Anna.

Thanks, Alison.

#413:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:03 am
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Thanks, Alison. I'm glad that Rudi was so blunt with Joey - Joey definitely needed it.

#414:  Author: Alison HLocation: Manchester PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:49 am
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“You’re back, then,” Elsie said.

Anna nodded. “I got back late last night. I just slipped over to apologise to Mechtilde: I gather she ended up spending most of this week over at Freudesheim. I ought to apologise to all of you, really, seeing as you’ve been having to manage one person down.”

“Aye, well - what we haven’t gone done this week’ll just have to be done next week, won’t it? Good holiday?”

“It was lovely, thank you. I didn’t realise just how tired I was until I got there. I didn’t really do much, but I did get to spend plenty of time with my family and with Karen. It was the first time I’d seen any of them since Karen’s wedding, and that was over nine months ago.”

“She’s all right, is she - Karen? I hear that much about her I feel like I know her!”

“She’s fine. More than fine - they’re so happy, and the hotel’s wonderful. You’d thoroughly approve of it. No-one’s expected to work long hours - although people never mind staying a few minutes late just to finish something off or to give someone else a hand - and they all get an agreed amount of paid holiday time each year. And although I didn’t like to ask about the rates of pay I got the impression that they were more than fair … and a lot more than anything the School or the Maynards’d ever offer for doing the same sort of work. There’s such a lovely friendly atmosphere there as well - Karen and Rudi and all the staff all get on so well together.”

“Hmm,” Elsie said. She wasn’t convinced that it was possible for employers and employees to be on friendly terms in more than an artificial way - if that. It wasn’t natural. Nor was not minding staying on after your shift’d ended, even if it was just for a few minutes. Sounded like a decent enough place otherwise, though; and hopefully it’d proved to Anna that not every workplace was like Freudesheim or the Chalet School. “You didn’t fancy staying on? Or have they not got a vacancy?”

Anna bit her lip. “I know it might sound silly, but I can’t imagine leaving Freudesheim. I’d miss all the children: sometimes I feel almost as if they’re my own. I’d even miss my kitchen – it might not really be mine but it feels like mine. I don’t actually want to leave: I just want things to be different. I really want things to be different.”

“Well, I’m glad to hear you say that last bit, but you’ve a funny way of going about getting anything done about it,” Elsie remarked. “Why did you not tell Mrs Maynard you were going? Leaving her a note like that – it’s as if you thought you were doing something to be ashamed of. Have you had it out with her yet?”

“I’ve not really spoken to her much since I went. She rang me twice whilst I was away, but I didn’t talk to her – she spoke to Karen the first time and Rudi the second time. Whatever they said to her must have worked, because she didn’t ring again. Then when I got back she didn’t really say anything to me at all.”

“Huh!” Elsie snorted. “She knows very well she’s in the wrong: she’d have had plenty to say otherwise! You want to get things sorted out with her. In writing, preferably. That’s what I’ve decided’s needed here. Sending Mechtilde over to one of the neighbours for the week was the final straw – we’re members of staff, not flaming chattels! It’s high time we had something down in black and white about the terms of our employment here. It’ll be best all round, I reckon – that way we’ll all know where we stand and there’ll be no more of this arguing and bad feeling.

“Everyone who’s been off for half term’ll be back today, and I’m calling a meeting of all our department in our sitting room tomorrow evening. You and Rosli’d be very welcome to join us if you can get over here. In fact, why don’t you tell everyone what it’s like at this hotel in Mayrhofen? No need to be shy – I’m sure everyone’d love to hear all about how Karen’s getting on! The idea’s to see what everyone else thinks of my plan and, if most folk are in agreement, decide exactly what we should be asking for. Then we can make a list, take it to Miss Annersley and get everything settled.”

#415:  Author: TanLocation: London via Newcastle Australia PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:18 am
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Shocked

Looking forward to the next few installments. I think it will be fascinating to see what Elsie has planned, and also to see how Hilda and Joey respond to their list!!

#416:  Author: RosyLocation: Gloucestershire-London-Aberystwyth PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:36 am
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Golly. Contract law. How scary.

#417:  Author: kerenLocation: Israel PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:23 am
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Trade union?
Strike??

#418:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:06 am
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Thanks Alison Smile

#419:  Author: Ruth BLocation: Oxford, UK PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:14 am
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This should be fun!

Have to say, much as I like Elsie, I think Karen and Rudi have the balance exactly right. Everyone has to be flexible. If you work in a hospital you can't stop giving out meds halfway through just because its the end of your shift. You may not be doing life saving work at a hotel but the principle is the same. Rigid work to rule has the potential to make an unhappy work environment.

#420:  Author: Joan the DwarfLocation: Er, where am I? PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:47 am
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*sings*
the union forever, defending our rights,
down with the blackleg, all workers unite
*\sings*

Yay for Mrs B.!

#421:  Author: ibarhisLocation: London and Hemel Hempstead PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:16 am
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Things have to change, but I hope everyone concerned can navigate that change without breaking things...

#422:  Author: ChairLocation: Rochester, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 1:00 pm
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Thanks, Alison. I look forward to seeing what happens at the meeting.

#423:  Author: francesnLocation: away with the faeries PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 1:47 pm
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Well Karen and Rudi certainly seem settled and sorted! I'd love to see Karen meet Elsie actually...

Thanks Alison

#424:  Author: FatimaLocation: Sunny Qatar PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:09 pm
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Yes, I like the way that Karen and Rudi run their hotel - sounds just as it should be. It will be interesting to see how Elsie negotiates a contract for her staff, as I don't think she'll find it easy to agree with the powers that be in the school on a lot of clauses. Thanks, Alison.

#425:  Author: LesleyLocation: Allhallows, Kent PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:17 pm
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Karen and Dudi have got it right - in any post there should be give and take - if the boss lets you off early when there's no work then you're happy to cover and do extra when it's busy.

Thanks Alison.

NB Think Madge needs to get involved

#426:  Author: La Petite EmLocation: Cheltenham PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:22 pm
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I can't wait to hear what Elsie says to the maids!
Thanks Alison

#427:  Author: TaraLocation: Malvern, Worcestershire PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:00 am
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I'm really interested that Elsie is being presented with new ways of thinking, too. Perhaps there will yet be a middle way which will give evryone what they need.

#428:  Author: KathrynWLocation: London PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:17 am
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This could get very tricky for all concerned...

Thanks Alison Very Happy

Kathryn



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