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#1: Clem Barras Author: aitchemelle, Location: West Sussex

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:55 am
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Ok now before I write the next bit of Clem (no don't fall over in shock) I have read the series from Three Go to the end but only partly in HB and missing one or two titles, I wanted to check some details if anyone can help me!

Does it say anywhere that Clem studied Art at college/ uni?
If not - did she go to university at all?
I was left with the impression after she left school that she was no major artrist - until of course Joey comissions the picture of the school to be done by her for the 25th anniversary (when Peter Young paints Madge's portrait).

Comments please!!

#2: Author: Alison H, Location: Manchester

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:58 am
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I remember Mary-Lou writing to her in Trials, but I don't think it says where Clem was then. & she turns up at the pantomime the time they had to get old girls to fill roles because an epidemic'd messed up rehearsals - also in Trials- but again I don't remember it saying what she was doing then. Sorry, that's not very helpful Embarassed

#3: Author: Kate, Location: Ireland

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:16 am
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It doesn't say in Trials what she's doing - just that she left school two years before. I have the following quotes about her and art though.

from Summer Term:

Quote:

"It is fabulous that Clem should have painted that picture," said Gretchen. "Indeed, I think it would be miraculous if she could do the portrait of Madame as well. Do not you, Agneta?"
"But Clem does not paint portraits," Agneta pointed out. "At least I have never heard that she did. She paints views and studies of flowers."

in Peggy:

Quote:

Clem Barrass, daughter of a well-known artist, though she was only very average herself, nodded. “Polly’s got a real gift; there’s no doubt about it.”

from Richenda:

Quote:

“It is,” Mary-Lou replied feelingly. “Inchcarrow’s in the Outer Hebrides. It’s a duck of an island. Quite tiny, with white-washed cottages with great bushes of fuschias growing right up to the roofs. We fished and boated and bathed—there’s gorgeous bathing in one bay—and Clem made some jolly good sketches. She’s come on a lot since she went to Art School.” Then her voice changed. “Hallo! A new girl! Welcome to our midst! What’s your name?”

She was in the Millies in Mary-Lou and Genius, so at some stage between Problem and Richenda she must be in art school.

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#4: Author: Mel, Location: UP NORTH

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:23 am
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I'm sure it does mention Art School at some time, but I can't think where. I remember seing surprised though, as Clem seemed to be heading towards the legion of 'gym mistresses' that the CS churns out.

#5: Author: Ruth B, Location: Oxford, UK

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:28 am
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Wasn't she with a sketching party in Triplets when she was called on to help with the panto.

#6: Author: aitchemelle, Location: West Sussex

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:32 pm
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Thanks guys - this is great! Very Happy

Keep going with any more thoughts you have. The bunny keeps nibbling at me and I am raring to go - just hate being pulled up half way through a drabble and having to change bits LOL! Laughing

#7: Author: Kate, Location: Ireland

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:02 pm
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Ruth B wrote:

Wasn't she with a sketching party in Triplets when she was called on to help with the panto.

Yep, in Zermatt. Or somewhere beginning with Z.

I've also found the following (not strictly about art, but about what's she's getting up to):

Wins the Trick:

Quote:

"Absolutely certain if she thinks she's needed. She couldn't do anything else. You see," Len explained, "they have practically no other relations. Verity has those distant cousins in Ireland, but she's not too fond of them. And Auntie Doris and Mary-Lou's father were both only children. You know she hasn't any real aunts, or uncles. And though the two Barrases live with them Clem has her own job and Tony's just a kid. He's younger than Mary-Lou. It would be all right in the hols, but what's going to happen in term-time?"

Trials:

Quote:

Naomi’s brows had been drawing together; but at the new expression, they straightened, and she said, “‘Light ship?’ What do you mean?”
“Oh, haven’t you heard it before?” Mary-Lou said airily. “That’s what they say of a ship that puts to sea without any cargo. She has ballast, of course; but otherwise, nothing. If it’s at all rough, she rolls!”
“And how did you learn it?” Clare Kennedy demanded.
“From Clem Barras. She and Tony were in Norway for part of the Christmas hols—they have some cousins of their mother’s over there—and he is a sea-captain. He was coming over to the Tyne to pick up a load of something and he came light ship. Clem said it was a mercy they were both good sailors or they would have died on the way!” She gave a chuckle.

Challenge:

Quote:

“I see Vi Lucy quite a lot,” Mary-Lou said. “She’s living with her sister Julie in term-time and doing her course in design. Hilary’s at Bedford - in her last year. Verity? Oh, she’s going all out for a big adventure. Yes,” she nodded and laughed. “I’m going to be an aunt-by marriage next May. Exciting, isn’t it. Clem? Oh, she’s off on a trip to Corsica and young Tony is up at Oxford and having the time of his life. I see him sometimes.”

#8: Author: Loryat,

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:53 pm
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At what point does Clem metapmorphose from someone who as far as I can remember isn't that good at art to someone good enough to go to college? Or did she just feel like going and not have to provide a portfolio or something?

#9: Author: Miriam, Location: Jerusalem, Israel

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:12 am
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I'm always suprised that Clem never made it to being Head Girl - she seems just the type, except that Julie Lucy got in the way.

If she was that good at art, surely she should have been Art Prefect? Instead she was relagated to being second games prefect, behind Annis Lovell - who never seemed to show great leadership qualities, or a talent for anything in the general games area. Clem got rather a raw deal when it came to prefectships.

#10: Author: Róisín, Location: Ireland

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:15 pm
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Miriam wrote:

I'm always suprised that Clem never made it to being Head Girl - she seems just the type, except that Julie Lucy got in the way.

That sounds like the opening lines of a murder mystery!

#11: Author: Mel, Location: UP NORTH

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:46 pm
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I think EBD wanted Clem to be a sensible, forthright sort of person and that didn't match her stereotype of an arty person, such as the Clem's parents and Katt's Aunt Luce. I'm surprised Rosalind Yolland is so ordinary (and boring).

#12: Author: patmac, Location: Yorkshire England

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:54 pm
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Could she have been a late developer? Art lessons in school tend to follow a pattern of drumming techniques into the girls and are not designed to cope with a creative person who doesn't fit the mould.

(speaking as someone who was thrown out of Art, having driven the Mistress to distraction and always felt a failure since. BTW, I was also a failure at Maths at school and now earn my living from a branch of it Shocked

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#13: Author: Kate, Location: Ireland

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:29 pm
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Just found this in Three Go:

Quote:

'Oh, I see. But Clem is three or four years older than you, isn't she? Unless you're an infant prodigy - which I'm certain you're not, thank goodness! I don't like them - you could scarcely hope to get up to her. Why, when you are thirteen or fourteen, she'll be seventeen or eighteen, and thinking about the University or an Art School, or something like that.'

So she must have been good, then declined and then got better again!

#14: Author: patmac, Location: Yorkshire England

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:49 pm
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In Carola, her collection for hobbies is copies of famous paintings -so she must have at least been interested.

#15: Author: Loryat,

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:56 pm
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Miriam wrote:

I'm always suprised that Clem never made it to being Head Girl - she seems just the type, except that Julie Lucy got in the way.

If she was that good at art, surely she should have been Art Prefect? Instead she was relagated to being second games prefect, behind Annis Lovell - who never seemed to show great leadership qualities, or a talent for anything in the general games area. Clem got rather a raw deal when it came to prefectships.

Clem was a very HG type character. If I was EBD I'd have made her HG over Julie, as she was IIRC a much more established character and superprefect.

Annis was pretty good at games I think though - at least, she is amazing at rowing.

#16: Author: Róisín, Location: Ireland

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:39 pm
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Loryat wrote:

Annis was pretty good at games I think though - at least, she is amazing at rowing.

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