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Relationships: Phoebe and Frank
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Author:  Róisín [ Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:57 am ]
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Phoebe Wychote is introduced in Jo to the Rescue, where Joey 'rescues' her from a life of lonely invalidism through offering her friendship and, inadvertently, a connection with the San. Jack treats Phoebe quite successfully but she will always need care. It is while she is in the San that Phoebe meets Frank Peters and they fall in love. Later, they marry and go on to adopt two children.

Any opinions on this relationship? Is it a bit too neat that Phoebe falls in love with someone who can properly (medically) take care of her? What do you think about the adoption; is this the first time that EBD has brought in a character who cannot physically have children but who is determined to get around that anyway? Do you think that Joey also had a hand in creating this relationship?

Author:  claire [ Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:11 am ]
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Doctors were probably the only men Phoebe saw so it's not surprising she fell in love with him. Him with doctor/patient boundaries I'm not so sure on (but I have a feeling she reminds him of his mother and that's where his feelings start from)

Phoebe I think always wanted children, so I think it's more her idea and Frank just lets her (as long as she doesn't stress too much - ie a newborn (though personally I found newborns easier than toddlerdom)

Author:  Alison H [ Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:17 am ]
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I don't think that Phoebe had had much contact with men before she met Frank, so I wasn't at all surprised that she fell for him, and he seems like the sort of person who'd like the idea of taking care of someone. Joey certainly matchmakes a bit, but in a nice way.

I wish that we'd heard more about Lucy's adoption. I find it quite upsetting the way that Joey is always going on about big families, in that that can be very hurtful if you're someone who wants children but due to medical reasons or not having a partner is unable to have them naturally, and would like to've seen more about Phoebe and Frank's decision. They are lovely people and I'm sure they made great parents.

Author:  MJKB [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:36 pm ]
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I love 'Jo to the Rescue' and wish I had the hb. Phoebe is a beautiful character and the love that develops between herself and Dr.Peters is pure escapism at its best.
I would love to have read more about them, especially about their adopted children. I absolutely agree that Jo's self congratulations on her 'long family' together with her disparaging comments about only children and small families grates on my nerves.

Author:  Sunglass [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:38 pm ]
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I always find this relationship very dubious in terms of doctor/patient ethics, and think Frank should have shut up about his feelings while Phoebe was in his care. Can you imagine anything worse than some medic making sheep's eyes at you across the medical charts, as you're trying to recover from a bad attack of whatever (rheumatoid arthritis?) she had, if you didn't actually reciprocate his feelings? Even if Frank was so carried away he wasn't thinking about his responsibilities, surely Jack should have had a word about it being unwise to fall for vulnerable patients who automatically feel grateful to you because you're treating them?

Although EBD obviously intends this relationship (a doctor to look after you!) as her best possible reward to Phoebe, it always tickles me also that she feels the need to make it plain that 'little' Frank, with his mouth like a 'gash' (always sounds rather horrifying and Frankenstein-ish to me!) is nowhere near as tall or 'pleasant-looking' as Jack, despite the fact we're told more than once that Jack is 'no film star for looks'... Can't have anyone stealing a march on Joey, I suppose.

I always imagine Phoebe and Frank's relationship after their marriage as being vaguely like Leonard and Virginia Woolf's marriage, with Frank continually forbidding too much excitement and physical exertion and doling out the pills. Maybe I'm slightly overreacting to what kind of marriage might follow a wedding where the entire CS is invited, despite the fact that the bride at least can't have met more than a couple of the girls. Sort of Rent-a-Crowd...

ETA While I know Joey was only criticising Frank's looks to gauge whether Phoebe was interested in him, I still think Phoebe is going to remember after they're married...

Author:  MJKB [ Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:46 pm ]
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I agree with Bookworm, I thought it was awful of Joey to criticise his looks the way she did. I''d have been furious if I'd been Phoebe, or at least very hurt.
I can't see Frank Peters as anything other than a very devoted and sensitive husband to Phoebe. He didn't come across as masterful or macho. I 'd love to have read more about their marriage and the children they adopted. I suppose he did breach medical ethics, but in a good cause!

Author:  Meg14 [ Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:32 pm ]
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I agree with MJKB I think it was good that medical ethics were breached :D ! I always thought that it was a lovely happy ending for Phoebe as it would have been very miserable for her to go back to leaving just with Debby and the fact that she has the kids later makes it even better as she very much wants a family life in Jo to the Rescue.

Funnily I never thought much about Dr Peters (and I agree it was pretty cruel of Joey to attack his looks for all she may mean it for the best) I think Phoebe is the one that you are supposed to have interest in but he must have had things fairly difficult too with his mother dying and so meeting Phoebe was probably as much of a happy ending for him as it was for Phoebe. I just wish EDB had given us more of his story!

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