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Author:  Róisín [ Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:40 pm ]
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Beechy of the Harbour School was written in 1955 - the same year as A Chalet Girl From Kenya, if anyone would like to draw comparisons. This isn't a book I have read so I would be very grateful if someone who has read it, could raise some points for discussion. For those of us who haven't read it and don't realise, there is a transcript of this book available on Raya's site (PM a mod if you have trouble finding it) which I am looking forward to reading this week! :D

Next Sunday: Bess on her own in Canada (has anyone read that?!)

Author:  Sunglass [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:40 pm ]
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It really surprises me that Beechy is so late in date - it's so much less sophisticated than Chalet Girl from Kenya and reads like an earlier book. I suppose you feel the lack of a very richly-characterised school, with lots of well-developed characters and locations in all EBD's non-CS books. Would people who have read her other series (I haven't) say that in general her best work is in the CS books, or is it more that she writes better in series in general, rather than stand-alone books?

This has lots of CS things, like a ghost story that ends in a sleepwalker rousing the whole school, a girl who has a 'devil who makes her do things', an illness for the heroine, and a villain who dislikes the devout, half-Italian heroine (but calls her a 'half-Dago' at one point, which would never happen at the CS!)

Is this another of the Sunday School prize books, given the very clunky religious element that tends to arrive out of the blue? Here, Beechy, arriving at her recently-dead mother's old school, has literally been in the school five minutes, and is unpacking:

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Beechy felt that in Miss Eliot and Matron she had found two people who would stand by her. [...] young though she was she sensed that the thing they had in common was a love in their hearts for God.
As Beechy helped Matron to put the little cubicle tidy, her mind went back to the night a few weeks ago when she had knelt by her mother’s bed and asked the Lord Jesus to come into her heart. She knew then that, all too soon, life would alter for her and had determined that, wherever she had to go, she would be God’s little messenger.


There's no basis whatsoever for Beechy to think Matron or Miss Eliot has any particularly strong religious belief at all in the five minutes she's known then, so this reads very oddly!

But the whole 'asking the Lord Jesus to come into her heart' thing seems new to me, and very non-CS. It sounds neither particularly C of E or classically Catholic - which religious groups tend to talk about being saved and 'asking the Lord into your heart'? Also, another difference from the CS is that we're not told whether Beechy is Catholic or Protestant - she keeps talking about 'becoming a Christian' as though she wasn't always, but surely her devout (presumably Catholic) mother wouldn't have allowed her to grow up with no faith? So why the kind of 'born again' rhetoric? Something to do with the readership?

The other interesting thing is very un-CS, that there's no publicly religious behaviour or bedside prayers at the Harbour School - in fact there seems to be some implication that the other girls aren't Christian, or aren't 'proper' Christians the way Beechy is? There is another slightly weird bit where religion gets pitchforked into a completely secular situation, where Beechy has done unexpectedly well in an essay and is being asked by her classmates how she did it:

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How she wished she could have been brave enough to add “and I prayed about it too.” But for too long she had kept it dark that she was a Christian. .. . it just “wasn’t done” to talk about religion at The Harbour School.


It's actually kind of interesting to see what EBD lets happen in a school she doesn't present as idealistically as the CS - here you have no 'public' religion, and apparently no cubicle prayer time (Beechy is too timid to be the only one kneeling by her bed), deliberately offensive anti-foreigner language used by the villain, and the ghost story is got from one of the girls 'gossiping with the maids', which is seen as her main sin in the episode...

Author:  JS [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:10 pm ]
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Haven't read it, but just wondered if Beechy was a shortened form of a name, and if so, what?

Edited to say thanks, Sunglass.

Author:  Sunglass [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:29 pm ]
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JS wrote:
Haven't read it, but just wondered if Beechy was a shortened form of a name, and if so, what?


It's short for 'Beatrice' - apparently Italians shorten it to 'Bice', but Beechy and her Italian mother were afraid people in England would pronounce that to rhyme with 'mice', so they spell it 'Beechy'.

Though - from my admittedly limited Italian, I would have said that 'Bice' would be pronounced 'BEE-chay' (short for 'Bay-a-TREE-chay') rather than 'Beechy'...? I have to say that before I read it, I was assuming from the book title that it was going to be about some nature-loving sprite of the woods who lived in a tree-house or something - and I kept getting weird flashbacks to the Armada paperback of Mary-Lou where the cover-illustration makes OOAO look as though she has leaves rather than hair growing on her head... :shock:

Author:  hac61 [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:57 pm ]
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Sunglass wrote:

But the whole 'asking the Lord Jesus to come into her heart' thing seems new to me, and very non-CS.


To my mind this is a very Evangelical or some branches of Non-Conformist thing. Evangelical Church, Elim Church even to some extent The Salvation Army all make a big thing about you asking the Lord Jesus to come into your heart. Some Baptist and Congregational writings of around that period also mention the same thing. Other denominations in other countries will also refer to it as "the hour of your salvation" or "when you were saved."


hac

Author:  JayB [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:47 pm ]
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To my mind this is a very Evangelical or some branches of Non-Conformist thing.

Yes, a friend of mine who is CofE, but very much on the Evangelical side, has talked of how she 'asked Jesus to come into her life'.

I suppose Beechy was one of those who was brought up nominally in a particular faith, but didn't think much about it beyond church on Sundays and maybe bedtime prayers. Whereas EBD's idea (expressed also in Ruey) is that God is present in every aspect of our lives and should be acknowledged as such.

The 'God's little messenger' idea sounds very Victorian, and suggests a much younger child - can't imagine it going down well with many girls of the 1950s, whatever their personal beliefs.

ETA: interesting that EBD, who was by this time a Catholic, should have written books largely intended for girls of the CofE or Protestant Nonconformist denominations. Obviously this is in line with the ideas expressed in the CS books, and as a highly professional witer she would write what she could sell. But I wonder how many of the schools and churches that gave her books as prizes were aware of her faith, and whether it would have mattered to them if they did know?

Author:  Kathy_S [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:34 pm ]
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To me this book felt as though the religious bits had been pasted in afterwards. Beechy's attitude seems somewhat alien to the tongue-tied but deeply held faith of EBD's usual characters, plus we have the rather bizarre concatenation of Elsie-Dinsmore-Protestantism and a devout Italian mother. Unless EBD was trying to shatter stereotypes? (Yes, I know all Italians aren't Catholic. After all, the first straight-from-Italy Italian I ever met was on the more orthodox side of Jewish.) Still, I'm afraid the whole 'If only I had publicly declared Jesus I wouldn't have been upset by the storm and so it's partly my fault Olive behaved badly' line of reasoning seemed rather a strain to me.

It was interesting seeing how many customs the Harbour School has in common with other EBD institutions, right down to the front-staircase-off-limits-to-all-girls-but-prefects. I wonder how many were common to the boarding school culture of the time, and how many are unique to EBD?

Author:  Mel [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:58 pm ]
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It's definitely a Sunday School Prize type book, possibly commissioned as such(?) which is why the Christianity is more definitely Protestant/Evangelical perhaps as RCs generally speaking don't go to Sunday School. (Every day is Sunday School!) It has such a lively title that I thought it would have much more of a lovely school-by-the-sea flavour about. All I can remember are the religious bits.

Author:  Pat [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:01 pm ]
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Kathy_S wrote:
It was interesting seeing how many customs the Harbour School has in common with other EBD institutions, right down to the front-staircase-off-limits-to-all-girls-but-prefects. I wonder how many were common to the boarding school culture of the time, and how many are unique to EBD?


At my school we used the front stairs only on Sundays. We all gathered in the hall there to croc down to chapel. The rest of the time we used the lino-covered back stairs, just like the CS girls. Only Prefects and staff could use the front - carpeted - ones at any time.

Author:  Tara [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:55 am ]
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Beechy is one of a group of three evangelical books (the others are Nesta Steps Out and Leader In Spite of Herself, written between 1954-56 for Oliphants, a religious press, and, in that way, quite different from anything else in EBD. My copy of Nesta was given as a prize for Sunday School attendance at the Glad Tidings Gospel Hall, an Assemblies of God church in Hull, and Leader was presented for gaining the highest number of points at a Girls' Brigade camp. The theology behind this would be that, however 'churchy' your background, it is only a conscious entering into a relationship with God through repentance and faith in Christ - asking Jesus into your heart - that has any efficacy; that is the only thing that makes you a Christian.
Like all other similar books, the message is heavy, but EBD was incapable of producing a mere tract and, though the religious message is very pointed, it's expressed in very human terms of girls struggling for victory over their own negative characteristics. Nesta has to overcome a violent temper, Rosemary her diffidence and shyness, while Beechy has to come to terms with her mother's death and conquer her reluctance to own her new-found faith publicly.
Despite all, I think EBD manages to create characters one can identify with.
The religious emphasis is so different from the CS - and the evangelicals of the time would have been horrified to know she was Catholic - the Pope was still the Anti-Christ in the 50s. So -strange.
No idea why she wrote them, unless she needed the cash ...
One small point of interest - Beechy feels so strongly that, in the Head and Matron, she has found people who will stand by her. This is despite having a loving and supportive extended family, and emphasises how much EBD saw the world of school as being home and family.

BTW Roisin - I've got Bess and have even read it, but so long ago I can't remember a thing. Will try to look at it tomorrow, but am going away on Fri, so might not make it!
ETA -it's all a lie!! :oops: . I haven't got Bess at all, the only one of the Geog Readers I've got is Sharlie's Kenya Diary. I did say it was a very long time ago! Sorry.

Author:  Miss Di [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:03 am ]
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Sunglass wrote:
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Beechy felt that in Miss Eliot and Matron she had found two people who would stand by her. [...] young though she was she sensed that the thing they had in common was a love in their hearts for God.
As Beechy helped Matron to put the little cubicle tidy, her mind went back to the night a few weeks ago when she had knelt by her mother’s bed and asked the Lord Jesus to come into her heart. She knew then that, all too soon, life would alter for her and had determined that, wherever she had to go, she would be God’s little messenger.



Erk. Vomit noises off.

Thanks for that Sunglass, I now know not to look too hard to find this book and possibly will never read it on the strength of that extract.

That revolting bit above and all the apparent born again stuff is too much even for this little lapsed Baptist.

Author:  Kathy_S [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:17 am ]
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Tara wrote:
The religious emphasis is so different from the CS - and the evangelicals of the time would have been horrified to know she was Catholic - the Pope was still the Anti-Christ in the 50s. So -strange.

I think the horror would have gone both ways. For a Catholic to have promoted the idea that one "becomes a Christian" in such an unsacramental way would very likely have been grounds for excommunication. It's part of what makes me wonder whether the publisher bought manuscripts and edited them to fit -- sort of like Diana adding the baking powder to Averil's Atonement. Or perhaps this one was actually written long before EBD's conversion, in the same way that Jo writes an Elsie book. EBD is usually remarkably nonsectarian for her era, and this one, far more than A Leader In Spite of Herself, seems out of place. For example, the part beginning "...talk to Him every day about all the things that make up your life..." would be consistent with her usual mode and with the equivalent Catholic genre, but its introduction by "Now that you are God's little child" makes the whole speech sit strangely.

Author:  Sunglass [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:26 pm ]
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Miss Di wrote:

Erk. Vomit noises off.

Thanks for that Sunglass, I now know not to look too hard to find this book and possibly will never read it on the strength of that extract.

That revolting bit above and all the apparent born again stuff is too much even for this little lapsed Baptist.


To be honest, that bit I quoted isn't typical of the book as a whole, which has long stretches of ordinary school story - though it's far from EBD at her best, so I'd be the last one to urge expending a lot of energy on getting a copy. Especially as, as Kathy_S says, the resolution of the conflict between heroine and villain is weirdly bound up with publicly declaring Christianity, which would somehow have prevented the feud. It does read in parts as though someone clunkily cut-and-pasted in some religious sentiments, and I'd agree that the way in which they are expressed in deeply uncharacteristic of EBD's representation of religion elsewhere. (Kathy_S, it does read like the Rollings Reliable story with Diana's interventions! :D )

It makes you think about how generalised/ecumenical her representation of religion in the CS is - bar the references to separate prayers and services, and to the fact that there are different varieties of Protestant, so they have a school hymnbook, there's virtually nothing (that comes to my mind anyway) about anyone's religion belief or practice which is specific to a particular sect. Maybe references to Jack's rosary, and Joey's Therese of Lisieux statue that Charles breaks...?

The CS would be a very different school if you had a majority (as at the Harbour School) who never discuss religion and don't pray at their bedsides night and morning, and different vocal minorities espousing entirely different forms of Christianity.

Now imagining a drabble where different CS faith groups all try to convert Naomi Elton to their ways of thinking! :shock:

Author:  Caroline [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:27 am ]
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I haven't read this one, although I think I have the transcript somewhere...

I think EBD has Joey writing "another title in her Harbour School series" in one of the Plas Howell books (can't now remember which one), so I had her writing "The School by the Harbour" in Robin... No tracts or evangelising for me or Joey, though.

Author:  Sugar [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:33 pm ]
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does anyone have a transcript they could email me (emails listed in profile) cos i can't access the transcript site any longer and I want to read this one! :?

ETA: Thank you to the mystery person who sent it!

Author:  Róisín [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:14 pm ]
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Sugar wrote:
does anyone have a transcript they could email me (emails listed in profile) cos i can't access the transcript site any longer and I want to read this one! :?

ETA: Thank you to the mystery person who sent it!


Sugar! I got your message but I was waiting til I was at the computer which had my transcripts to send it (am at a work computer in the evenings) - so sorry for delay in replying and I'm glad you got it in the end.

Author:  Sugar [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:33 pm ]
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No worries Roisin. I've now got a good procransination tool from the dreaded Thesis.

Author:  Alison H [ Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:39 pm ]
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I've only read this once, and once was enough!

All the religious stuff sounded to me more like something out of a 19th century Great Awakening evangelical type book, not at all what I'd expect of EBD in the 1950s.

EBD must have read a lot of those 19th century books which were heavily influenced by evangelical Protestantism - the influence of Little Women on the characters of young Joey and young Robin is very clear, and she makes references to the Elsie books, Queechy, Wide Wide World and various others. Even Jane Eyre has that sort of element in it. It just doesn't fit with the CS books and the La Rochelle books, though, nor with 1950s literature in general.

Author:  Loryat [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:56 am ]
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I just read a book by Edith Wharton, published in 1924, where there is an Italian character called Beatrice and they call her Beechy - also a potentially consumptive child, and they have to spend a lot of time in the Alps for his sake. Very CS! I wonder if EBD ever read it?

Author:  Sunglass [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:06 pm ]
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Loryat wrote:
I just read a book by Edith Wharton, published in 1924, where there is an Italian character called Beatrice and they call her Beechy - also a potentially consumptive child, and they have to spend a lot of time in the Alps for his sake. Very CS! I wonder if EBD ever read it?


Is that in Old New York, or A Mother's Recompense or one of those? I suppose it's possible EBD knew it - Wharton would have had a lot of publicity for winning the Pulitzer in 1920 for The Age of Innocence.

It just occurred to me that Beechy of the Harbour School should really be called Preachy of the Harbour School... :D :twisted:

Author:  leahbelle [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:26 pm ]
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I remember my Baptist church used to make a huge deal of "asking Jesus into your heart" before you could become a real Christian.

Author:  Loryat [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:18 pm ]
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It's a novel called The Children. I think it's been out of print for a while but Virago rereleased it.

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