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#1: spring carol Author: Kathy_SLocation: midwestern US PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:23 pm
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Instantly the orchestra struck up the old spring carol which is better known nowadays as Good King Wenceslas.
-Challenge

Does anyone know where to find the words that make this a "spring carol?" (assuming it isn't normal for the snow to 'lay round about' at this time of year, though it persists in doing so....)

#2:  Author: MiaLocation: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:35 pm
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IIRC, the guy who wrote the words of Good King Wenceslas, used the music from an older piece of music, so maybe that was about spring? And EBD was referring to the music?

#3:  Author: MelLocation: UP NORTH PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:16 pm
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But the second line is: 'On the feast of Stephen' which is Boxing Day!

#4:  Author: ChelseaLocation: Your Imagination PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:40 pm
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I read it the way Mia did - the Spring Carol had totally different words and that it's tune was used for Good King Wenceslas.

I have no idea of the words for the Spring Carol though.

Here is some info:
Some Info From Google

#5:  Author: AllyLocation: The land of the fording oxes PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:10 pm
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Wikipedia (if you trust it) has some further details here

And there are words in latin here

'It is time for flowering' or 'The Flower Carol' both sound quite spring like

#6:  Author: Kathy_SLocation: midwestern US PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:19 pm
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Thank you, Ally! Those words sound both spring-like and carolish. I may even have seen them back in the dark ages, but never connected the 'Good King Wenceslas' tune. It fits nicely, though.

ETA Here's what I get out of it. I'm not entirely sure of a few bits, so if anyone has other ideas I won't be at all offended!

Flowering time is here, for the flowers will spring up.
Turning green in all ways, they follow the customary pattern.
That which the cold had damaged, the warmth repairs
We [likewise] resolve to do this, through many labors.

The meadows are full of flowers, with a pleasant appearance
Where it pleases the plants to choose.
By choice grasses and plants rest in winter
The herbage turns green and grows healthy in time

These things show us God the creator beautifully,
Whom we also believe the maker of all things.
O time, therefore merry, for it is pleasing to rejoice!
The world having been renewed, it is proper for us to be renewed.

The earth is ornamented with flowers and with much beauty
Therefore let us rejoice at this pleasant time
with virtuous customs and true love.
Let us praise God from the depth of the soul.

#7:  Author: Mrs RedbootsLocation: London, UK PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:08 pm
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The translation in the Oxford Book of Carols can be found on Cyber-hymnal (such a useful resource!).



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