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#1: Going up to Oxford Author: Lisa A., Location: North Yorkshire

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:13 pm
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I was wondering about the dominance of Oxford as a higher education establishment for CS girls. Were they unusual in accepting women and the choice was basically Oxford or nothing (if you didn't want to go to the Sorbonne of course)? Or would CS girls consider nothing less?

#2: Author: Róisín, Location: Gaillimh

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:16 pm
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I think it depended on what they wanted to be. If a maths teacher, then the London School of Economics is mentioned for Juliet, I think, else the Sorbonne for Simone. If needlework then the Kensington (?) School for Sybil. There was a specific place for physical education training as well, but the name escapes me.

I think maybe Oxford was the choice for those girls doing Arts subjects, ie English, History, Sociology (Robin?) and Archaeology (Mary-Lou).

#3: Author: Mia, Location: London

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:19 pm
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Bedford for PE?

http://www.the-cbb.co.uk/middle_archive/AE_Universities_120804.htm

is in the archives

Edited a gazillion time to fix the link before giving up

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#4: Author: pim, Location: Londinium

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:19 pm
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Róisín wrote:

There was a specific place for physical education training as well, but the name escapes me.

It was usually Bedford.

#5: Author: Alison H, Location: Manchester

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:29 pm
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I know there's been a discussion before about women at Oxford and Cambridge and I can't remember exactly what was said ... I don't think there was any particular reason why women would choose one over the other by the mid 20th century though.

I'm not sure what EBD had against "red brick" universities, other than London. Presumably it was just snobbery! I'd love to've seen one of the CS girls going somewhere like Birmingham (because I went there Very Happy

) or Manchester!

ETA - wasn't Margot going to Edinburgh?

& I think EBD's ideas about uni applications were rather outdated - Jack asked Roger Richardson (in the mid-1950s) if his dad had put his name down for a university yet Confused

#6: Author: Kate, Location: Ireland

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:55 pm
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It is better than in Malory Towers - where practically the whole form go to Edinburgh, despite the fact that the school is in Cornwall and they seem to live relatively close to it. Surely there was somewhere nearer...

#7: Author: macyrose, Location: Great White North (Canada)

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:29 pm
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Alison H. wrote:

Quote:

& I think EBD's ideas about uni applications were rather outdated - Jack asked Roger Richardson (in the mid-1950s) if his dad had put his name down for a university yet

What did it mean to put one's name down for a university? Did you just register with the university and it would accept you automatically?

#8: Author: Mia, Location: London

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:45 pm
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macyrose wrote:

What did it mean to put one's name down for a university? Did you just register with the university and it would accept you automatically?

Yes, you paid fees and not everyone could afford them until the grant system was put into place making university education accessible to everyone. Most people (men) would go from public school to university, especially Oxbridge.

#9: Author: Loryat,

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:02 pm
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Alison H wrote:

I'm not sure what EBD had against "red brick" universities, other than London. Presumably it was just snobbery! I'd love to've seen one of the CS girls going somewhere like Birmingham (because I went there Very Happy

) or Manchester!

Doesn't Ilonka Barkocz plan to lecture in a 'smaller' university? Maybe it was good enough for foreigners.

#10: Author: macyrose, Location: Great White North (Canada)

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:08 pm
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Thanks, Mia, for your answer. I'm guessing that meant that even if you had lousy grades but enough money you could get in. What a change from today when grades mean so much!

#11: Author: Ray, Location: Bristol, England

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:29 pm
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Alison H wrote:

I know there's been a discussion before about women at Oxford and Cambridge and I can't remember exactly what was said ... I don't think there was any particular reason why women would choose one over the other by the mid 20th century though.

It's to do with whether or not womeny would be awarded full degrees. Cambridge didn't start awarding full degrees for women until relatively late in the 20th Century, whereas Oxford either had always done so, OR, started awarding them much sooner.

As for why EBD only picked on a few universities, it's just *POSSIBLE* that she picked on a limited number of very famous ones purely because she knew that her readers would have heard of all of them.

Ray *why yes that is a straw I'm clutching at!*

#12: Author: Mia, Location: London

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:45 am
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macyrose wrote:

Thanks, Mia, for your answer. I'm guessing that meant that even if you had lousy grades but enough money you could get in. What a change from today when grades mean so much!

I suppose there must have been a certain academic standard once you were there, otherwise you would have been sent down, but I can't imagine the competition for places would be so fierce as today. And you do read about some people leaving then with Thirds and things.

#13: Author: macyrose, Location: Great White North (Canada)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:42 pm
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Sent down, I'm guessing means expelled? And what is a Third? A lower type of degree? As you can see I don't know much about British universities.

#14: Author: Mia, Location: London

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:52 pm
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macyrose wrote:

Sent down, I'm guessing means expelled? And what is a Third? A lower type of degree? As you can see I don't know much about British universities.

I'm sorry! Very Happy

Yes, to be 'sent down' means to be requested to leave.

There are 5 types of degree class for an undergraduate degree, which are Bachelor of Arts (BA) or Bachelor of Sciences (BSc) in chosen subject.

First
Upper Second (sometimes called a two one)
Lower Second (two two)
Third
Pass degree - this is quite low I think, lower than 40%?

I'm sure someone can explain this in more details, but I think that's the basics.

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#15: Author: Kate, Location: Ireland

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:53 pm
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In universities here, your marks are divided into:

First Class Honours (first)
Second Class Honours Grade One (Upper Second/2.1)
Second Class Honours Grade Two (Lower Second/2.2)
Third Class Honours (Third)
Ordinary Degree (Pass)
Fail

According to wikipedia, until the 1970s, Oxford used to award Fourth-class Honours degrees, although they did not divide Second-Class Honours and so still had four Honours classes like everyone else.

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#16: Author: Katherine, Location: London, UK

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:54 pm
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Yes, sent down is being expelled. Degrees are classed into First, Second, Third and Ordinary (i.e. not Honours), in descending level of achievement. Then, as everyone got a Second, they split them in to Upper and Lower Second, otherwise known as a IIi and a IIii.
Most people get at least a IIii. Many employers will ask for a IIi.

Wasn't one of the Queen's kids allowed into Oxbridge despite some less than spectacular results when no ordinary person would have got in? If it was Charles (and I think it might have been) that would be in the late 60s, which suggestes there were more stringent requirements by then.
Hope I didn't just libel HRH!

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#17: Author: macyrose, Location: Great White North (Canada)

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:57 pm
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Thanks Mia, Kate and Katherine for your answers Very Happy

I think I'm getting it now. Firsts are for people who get the highest marks, seconds for those with the next best marks and so on down. Right?

#18: Author: Karry, Location: Stoke on Trent

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:59 pm
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A little off topic, but a IIii is sometimes known as a Desmond! Surprised

#19: Author: Kate, Location: Ireland

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:00 pm
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I think it varies by uni, but in ours it was like so:

1 - 70% and above
2.1 - 64-70%
2.2 - 60-63%
3 - 50-59%
Pass - 40-49%
Fail - below 39%

It is extremely hard to get above a 70 - it was rumoured in our uni that you actually were only marked out of 80, as no one ever got above an 80. I got a 78 once and was absolutely astounded.

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#20: Author: Róisín, Location: Gaillimh

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:05 pm
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I had no idea that 'sent down' meant expelled. I'm reading Mrs. Dalloway at the moment and read a few days ago that Peter Walsh was 'sent down' - I presumed this meant he had lived south of Oxford and when he finished there, travelled south Embarassed

CBB rescues me from myself as usual... Laughing

#21: Author: Kathy_S, Location: midwestern US

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:12 pm
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Kate wrote:

I think it varies by uni, but in ours it was like so:

1 - 70% and above
2.1 - 64-70%
2.2 - 60-63%
3 - 50-59%
Pass - 40-49%
Fail - below 39%

It is extremely hard to get above a 70 - it was rumoured in our uni that you actually were only marked out of 80, as no one ever got above an 80. I got a 78 once and was absolutely astounded.

That's really interesting. Where I teach, 70% is the lowest C-, and considered fairly abysmal. (Grades below C- aren't accepted toward the major.) I've wondered why people were congratulating each other over grades I'd consider failing!

ETA I'm sure it's just the grading system is different. I don't mean to suggest that the work is substandard at all.

#22: Author: Kate, Location: Ireland

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:21 pm
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We had US exchange students in my MPhil and I found one of them crying when she received a 70 for an essay... It took me ages to convince her that it was actually a really really good grade and probably equivalent to an A+ in the US!

I'm sure if it was a straightforwards maths test, it is possible that someone could get everything right (although in that case, in quite a few places they mark you on a curve - the highest marks get firsts, the next get 2.1s and so on, despite the percentage). I'm speaking from an Arts degree POV. We are examined on essays and exams (in which we write essays). I think they operate on the principle that nothing can be perfect - if it was, then they wouldn't be qualified to lecture us!

Also - in a particular uni in Ireland, there are 400 places for First Year Arts students, but only 250 for Second Years. Therefore, almost half have to drop out or fail. So the uni marks on a curve - the top 250 people pass, the rest fail.

#23: Author: Aquabird, Location: North Lanarkshire, Scotland

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:47 pm
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Ray wrote:

Alison H wrote:

I think Oxford started allowing women to obtain degrees around 1920; prior to that they could study there, but not earn the degree. Cambridge didn't allow women to earn degrees until 1947ish.

#24: Author: Sarah_L, Location: Leeds

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:00 pm
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Certainly at Oxford and Teesside, and I'd guess most other English universities, the grades are:
70%+ First
60-69% 2:1
50-59% 2:2
40-49% Third

It is incredibly difficult to get much over say 73/74% - maybe because they're judging you by academic standards so the tutors would probably get 90%+ if they sat the exams now, but obviously you've got no chance of reaching that standard at undergraduate level.

#25: Author: skye,

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:41 pm
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When I was at University I was told that the normal maximum mark for an undergraduate was 70. Students could only achieve a higher grade if they produced work which was an extension to the current body of knowledge in that subject.

The implication being that you 'read' for a degree and summarise the work of others in order to do your assignments and examinations, and the maximum mark would be 70 for that. But if you did some independent research and brought out some new information, or discovered a new way of splitting the atom you would be able to achieve a higher grade.

Obviously this wouldn't apply to an examination in maths where it would be possible to get all of your sums correct!

So far as being 'sent down' is concerned. this applies to being banned from attending the university for a period of time. So if you have been caught doing something naughty, you may get 'sent down' or 'rusticated' for a short or long period of time.

#26: Author: Joan the Dwarf, Location: Er, where am I?

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:28 pm
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"sent down" is perminant - if it's only temporary then it's "rustication" (derived from being sent into the country!).

#27: Author: KathrynW, Location: London

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:27 pm
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And then confusingly, at Cambridge at least, you do things like 'going down' which is completely different to being 'sent down'...

#28: Author: Kathy_S, Location: midwestern US

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:18 pm
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KathrynW wrote:

And then confusingly, at Cambridge at least, you do things like 'going down' which is completely different to being 'sent down'...

Elucidate, please?
Otherwise I will assume that going down means the ship is sinking and you don't have a life jacket.

#29: Author: KathrynW, Location: London

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:01 pm
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'Going down' is what happens the end of term when you leave Cambridge and go back home. You 'come up' to Cambridge at the start of term and 'go down' at the end. It's nothing to do with being sent down/being in disgrace at all - it's just what everyone does at the end of term!

#30: Author: Alison H, Location: Manchester

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:16 pm
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Sarah_L wrote:

Certainly at Oxford and Teesside, and I'd guess most other English universities, the grades are:
70%+ First
60-69% 2:1
50-59% 2:2
40-49% Third

I think that's what the grades were at Birmingham when I was there in the '90s. It was definitely 70%+ for a 1st and 60-69% for a 2:1.

Having said which, although we got percentages for the exams which determined which class of degree we got, the essays we did as we went along were marked on an A+/A/A-/B+ etc system Rolling Eyes

. One lecturer actually used B++ and A-- etc, which really was confusing Laughing

#31: Author: Cath V-P, Location: Newcastle NSW

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:15 am
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And in Australia, there is an Honours year, which is additional to your straightforward pass degree. So, a BA, or BSc takes three years; you have to pass a certain number of subjects in at least two major areas of study (they can be in the same department, so you can have an Arts degree with two majors in English for example). All subjects are graded in seven bands - University of Queensland for example, grades numerically, others use terms such as Pass, Credit Pass - but essentially grade 4 is the passing grade, 7 is the top. At the end of your three years, all your grades are added together, and your Grade Point Average (GPA) is calculated. You can graduate at this point.

If you want to do an Honours year, you usually have to achieve a minimum GPA of about 5 (approx 65%). Honours is a mixture of coursework and thesis, and is awarded as first, second or third class.

It can get very complex..... Very Happy

#32: Author: jennifer, Location: Taiwan

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:08 am
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In Canadian Universities 70% would probably get you a B- or C+, not spectacular but a solid pass. Fail is generally defined as below 50%, with 40-50% being a D and below 40 a solid F. To apply to grad school a high B+/A- is the minimum usually required, and in science programs an honours degree is usually required (the honours physics degree I took, for example, had a heavier course load, more required courses and more advanced senior courses than a major did, and required a B+ average at the end of second year to be admitted).

A large undergraduate class would probably have an average mark of 65%. I know in my graduate university, for undergrads, classes with more than 10% As or a certain percentage of failures had to have justification from the professor. Grading on a curve was common for undergrad classes.

For more senior classes, the ones required for honours degrees, for example, or graduate courses, the average would be higher. Failing a graduate course was relatively unusual and likely to mean someone would probably leave the program.

#33: Author: Kathy_S, Location: midwestern US

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:39 am
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Thank you for defining "going down," Kathryn.

I like the idea of having to justify too many As as well as too many failures. Our pressures mostly favor rampant grade inflation.

#34: Author: Tan, Location: London via Newcastle Australia

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:29 am
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Cath V-P wrote:

And in Australia, there is an Honours year, which is additional to your straightforward pass degree.

It can get very complex..... Very Happy

It has taken me quite a bit of time to figure all this out, particularly as my degree is Australian and I am now here in the UK. I am doing some career counselling with students who are sitting their GCSE exams this year and someone asked me about honours degrees the other day. Confused

#35: Author: pim, Location: Londinium

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:26 am
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Sarah_L wrote:

Certainly at Oxford and Teesside, and I'd guess most other English universities, the grades are:
70%+ First
60-69% 2:1
50-59% 2:2
40-49% Third

Apart from St Andrews which existed in its own little marking bubble:

0-4.49 Fail
4.5-8.49 Pass
8.5-10.49 Third
10.5-13.49 2:ii
13.5-16.49 2:i
16.5+ First

When I was in sub honours (first and second year) there were quite a few marking systems in place depending on your department - modern languages on the 20-80 scale was VERY confusing, and even more so because module overall marks had to be given on the 1-20 scale. I think a couple of science departments used a percentage scale. But when I started in Junior Honours (most people's third, my fourth after my year abroad) the uni decided to implement the 1-20 scale across the board...

I remember every exam session there would be a discussion on the uni message board about classifications and the exceptionally complicated algorithm for working marks out would be trotted out.

#36: Author: Ruth B, Location: Oxford, UK

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:49 am
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The OU has a different system again:

Pass 1 (distinction) 85
Pass 2 70
Pass 3 55
Pass 4 40

#37: Author: Ray, Location: Bristol, England

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:42 am
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*grins* I wasn't going to mention the OU's marking scheme...

Ray *who has managed to get a couple of level 1s but is far better at getting level 2s...*

#38: Author: Rosie, Location: Brest. Still amuses me...

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:52 am
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We (as in our small Anglophone ex-pat community at Brest University!) have discovered that the pass rate here is 50 percent (can't find the symbol). At home it is only 40. Thus, it has been pointed out that we can fail here and pass at home with the same mark. Luckily I don't have to pass anyway (huzzah) as I am not entirely sure my lecturers would fall for it!

#39: Author: Mia, Location: London

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:34 am
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We didn't have to pass either - thank goodness! Embarassed

though I'm sure some of the Scottish and Irish people did. The worst thing I found was that so many of the lecturers and tutors were disappointed we wrote things in French because they wanted to practise their English - and we didn't find out till later how many of the exams in Belgium are 'open book' exams. *headdesk*

In fact it was so weird in Belgium because the tutors would basically dictate everything and the students would scribble down every sentence and then they would be examined and allowed to bring all their files in. And then some of them still failed!! How?

Not like us having to memorise ***** great passages of Flaubert and Baudelaire and Gide for our finals!

#40: Author: pim, Location: Londinium

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:44 am
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Mia wrote:

We didn't have to pass either - thank goodness! Embarassed

though I'm sure some of the Scottish and Irish people did.

The Scottish people probably would have done. We had a choice for our integrated year abroad - you either did a semester/whole year at a university abroad which counted as your Junior Honours year or you went as a teaching assistant/in a random job you found yourself which didn't count (yes, I am still narked that my dissertation that I wrote in France I got a first for and all it counted for was paying half fees to the university...). I know it was quite complicated for people I knew who'd gone to uni because they weren't part of ERASMUS/Socrates because it had to count as their JH. They also had to then have a great long meeting with the department's year abroad co-ordinator when they came back to convert their grades. It all sounded far too complicated for my liking Embarassed

#41: Author: Loryat,

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:03 pm
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At my university it used to be actually impssible to get higher than 80 or 90% depending on what courses you were doing. Now they've changed it so it is theoretically possible to get a 95 for example.

#42: Author: Polly, Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:03 pm
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Don't forget that there is no universal moderation for what a 70% actually is. A 70% for a 2:1 in one country may be completely different to a 70% in another country. In state education in the UK, we have to mark to the National Curriculum levels and everything is supposed to be standardised across the country. You still have to agree what it is the students do to achieve a certain level, but there is an overall set idea of what they should be able to do as a minimum. This system is not in place in any other part of education, so what is marked as a 70% in one place, may be marked as a completely different figure somewhere else, and cannot really be compared.

Hope that makes sense! Very Happy

#43: Author: Cazx, Location: Swansea/Bristol

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:06 pm
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Cambridge allowed women to attend lectures and opened a women only college in either the 1870's or 1880's (I can't remember exactly I'm afraid) but it did not allow women to get an actual degree, they were allowed to sit the exams though... It wasn't until after the WW2 that women were granted degrees.
Oxford were later than Cambridge in allowing female students, it wasn't until either the 1880's or 1890's that female students were accepted, though women were granted full degrees sooner.
The first university to admit male and females on an equal footing was the University College London which has done since it's formation.
Part of my dissertation covered female participation in University so that's how I know these random facts!

#44: Author: JayB, Location: SE England

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:45 pm
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I teach modules on part time certificate courses for a university. Students on these courses can over time build up eniugh credit to earn a degree. Student essays on these courses are moderated by an external examiner.

According to the handbook, marking on these courses is
40-49% Pass
50-59% Pass
60-69% Merit
70% + Distinction

I very rarely mark anything higher than the mid 70s.

Jay B.

#45: Author: Laura V, Location: Czech Republic

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:17 pm
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did any Chaletians go to Cambridge instead of Oxford?

#46: Author: claire, Location: South Wales

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:30 pm
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I know someone who worked in a US university then an English one, she said she had to drop all her marks by 20% (so if she gave a 70% here it would have got a 90%there)

Here you're never going to get 100% - after all only God is perfect (and yes, our lecturers have made that comment) -my highest is 80% (lowest 58% and I was gutted with that, it didn't matter how much I told myself it wasn't a bad mark)

#47: Author: Rebecca, Location: Oxford

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:34 am
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One of my friends did manage an average of over 95% for his finals at Oxford but this was maths and he was a genius...

Talking about complicated marking systems, the Oxford maths degree used to have a beautiful one, which I am glad they were phasing out so I was the first year just to be given a straight percentage. In the old system, each paper had 8 questions which were all out of 20 and everyone could attempt as many as they wanted. Each question answer was then marked out of 20 and denoted as alpha, beta or gamma with alpha being for the highest marks. The alphas and betas for each paper were then totalled. However, each question's mark was squared and these marks were added together for each paper to reward candidates who completed all of a question. For example, 5/20 on 4 questions would give a sum squared of 100 whereas 20/20 on one question would give 400. Then the examiners would draw up the degree class boundaries so you had to get a certain number of alphas and betas plus a sum squared total over a certain figure to decide which class you got!!

#48: Author: Joan the Dwarf, Location: Er, where am I?

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:12 am
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I'm disappointed that the two-dimensional sum-squares marking is gone - it was such a... mathematician's way of marking Laughing

Mind you, Law at Oxford also used to have a marking system based on two sets of marks. I think they were envious of the maths people Very Happy

#49: Author: Alison H, Location: Manchester

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:07 pm
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I'm surprised that Josette Russell was - until Madge and Jem made her go off on their trip with them - planning to go to L.S.E., which AFAIK had a reputation for being very left-wing even by then (mid-'50s). Would have given her a rather different view on things from the one she got at home and at the CS!

ETA - our class of degree at Birmingham was decided on the results of 9 papers - 7 exams, plus the dissertation which counted as 2 papers. However, you could get a "2:1 with 1st content" in a paper, and I'm not sure that you couldn't also get a "2:2 with 2:1 content" Rolling Eyes

. I never did quite work it out Confused

....

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#50: Author: Sarah_L, Location: Leeds

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:25 pm
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Joan the Dwarf wrote:

Mind you, Law at Oxford also used to have a marking system based on two sets of marks. I think they were envious of the maths people Very Happy

The law marking system at Oxford now is still a bit confusing, though I think it's not just law that uses this system.
Basically, the degree is 100% finals (no exams that count towards your degree at the end of the first or second year). There's nine papers, and each paper is marked on the % system as discussed in posts above. Then they count up how many firsts, 2:1s, etc you have. If you have five 2:1s, your degree is normally a 2:1, regardless of the overall %. Basically, you could get 60 (bottom end of the 2:1 class) in five papers, 50 (bottom end of 2:2 class) in three papers and 40 (bottom end of third paper) in the other paper. You would then have an overall average of 54.4 but get a 2:1 as the class was decided on the number of 2:1s rather than the average.

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#51: Author: KB, Location: Melbourne, Australia

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:59 pm
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Laura V wrote:

did any Chaletians go to Cambridge instead of Oxford?

Actually, there were a few:
Miss Durrant may have studied there (Jo of)
Jeanne le Cadoulec in Highland Twins (although I think that was for work rather than study)
One girl from Camden House went there (Wrong CS)
Miss Bubb (Excitements)
Jocelyn Fawcett (Ruey)
Mr Barr (Redheads) where it also suggests that Jack may have gone there and also Bert Manly in the same book.

And the Thérèse Lepattre Scholarship is valid at Cambridge as well as Oxford and the Sorbonne, so EBD must have held it in pretty high esteem.

#52: Author: Tara, Location: Malvern, Worcestershire

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:08 am
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Cambridge admitted women to full degrees in 1948. I was then one year old - which is a very, very sobering thought.

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